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Another Triathlon Podcast
Episode 52: Ironman 70.3 Mont Tremblant Recap, NYC Podcast Meet ups & SuperTri updates.
Join us as we catch up with the hosts and their training and racing. We unpack Josh's race this weekend, so close to the podium and attendance at the SuperTri event. As well as Fede's trip to NYC to see a Yankees game and meet Josh in person, and Jenna-Caer taking the win in a Duathlon.
They highlight the Canadian domination at the 70.3 Mont-Tremblant race, with Lionel Sanders taking first place for the men and Paula Findlay winning for the women. They also mention the impressive performances of Ben Kanute and Matthew Marquardt in the men's race, and Tamara Jewett and Ellie Salthouse in the women's race. The hosts also discuss the challenges faced by Paula Findlay, including a lost bike and competing in the Canadian National Time Trial Championships before the race. In this conversation, the hosts discuss the upcoming Ironman Pro Series 70.3 race in Les Sables-d'Olonne, France. They also talk about the Super League Triathlon and its new franchise setup. They make predictions for the race winners and share their excitement for the New York City Marathon. They also mention the controversy surrounding the lack of air conditioning in the Olympic Village for the upcoming Tokyo Olympics.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Weekend Recap
16:48 Canadian Domination at 70.3 Mont-Tremblant
23:56 Impressive Performances by Ben Kanute and Matthew Marquardt
24:52 Strong Showings by Tamara Jewett and Ellie Salthouse
26:16 Paula Findlay Overcomes Challenges to Win
27:23 Technical Aspects of the Races
28:38 Ironman Pro Series 70.3 in Les Sables-d'Olonne
48:21 Super League Triathlon and New York City Marathon
55:18 Controversy over Lack of Air Conditioning in Olympic Village
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Speaker 2:Here we are with another triathlon podcast brought to you by Mana Apparel. As always, I'm joined by my co-hosts, Sede and Josh, and we're going to dive into everything going on this past week in the triathlon world, including some fun in Canada, a few maple leaf flags waving after this weekend. We'll also jump into some Super Tri news and some updates on the Olympic picks for the triathlon. There's definitely been a lot of announcements the last little while, Some controversial, some less surprising, but we will dive into all of it. But let's start with what's going on in our world. First off, I was feeling a little left out. This weekend in New York City I saw you, Josh and Fede meeting up there without me. How did that weekend go, Josh?
Speaker 3:Oh, it was awesome, it was uh. So, if you don't know, I was down in peloton for a big group event that I had organized to ride with matt wilpers, uh. So check out that wilpers episode and kind of see what that was all about. But uh, I had 39 bikes in the studio, so all of the bikes at the peloton studio brought people that never been. And then I saw that our buddy Fede was in New York trying to catch some Yankees games. So I asked him where he was staying and he was literally like a couple blocks from where the Peloton studios were and where I was.
Speaker 3:And I was in and out, because I had to get back to Boston for my race yesterday morning and we had a window where we could meet up. So I got to give Fede a quick tour of the Peloton studios and and got to meet his girlfriend and uh got to chat and hang out for a little bit and and finally meet each other in person. So it was uh really cool and uh we didn't want to break up. But he had to get to the uh to Yankee stadium and I had to get on the road because I had a four-hour drive back.
Speaker 2:Oh, sounds like fun. Fede, what brought you up there?
Speaker 4:You said you're going to see some baseball. Yeah, so I decided to do a little trip to New York, do a few things over there. And also it just happened that the Yankees were playing and you know, grew up watching them, supporting them, so of course I needed to catch a game and, yeah, it was just amazing that Josh was in town and it was amazing. Got to meet him, his wife, and he seems like he runs the whole Peloton company. Everybody's high-fiving him saying hello.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, it was cool to watch and those guys of Peloton, they are doing an amazing job. Just incredible how big they have become. And this is not a sponsored ad or anything. Just I tip my hat to those guys because they're doing an amazing job and they are, you know, like Josh mentioned on that day day, they are creating triathletes out of nowhere, really, uh, out of just indoor training systems and group classes, and I think this is a very exciting avenue to explore for triathlon coaching and development that you don't need to be 24-7 with a coach on site. You could have workouts recorded and, as long as a person is willing and knows the metrics that they're working with, they could become very good athletes. So, yeah, it was amazing and of course now we started talking on that day and somebody just signed up for 70.3 Maine.
Speaker 2:Yes, we did it.
Speaker 3:So we're going to see each other again in a couple of weeks. There we go.
Speaker 2:That's wicked. Sounds like lots of fun. But, Josh, what else happened on your weekend? Sounds like you had lots going on. Yeah, so it was actually lots of fun. But, josh, what else happened on your weekend? Sounds like you had lots going on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it was actually the week started. I got to go into Boston for a kickoff event We'll talk a little bit more about it with Super Try and got to hang out with some cool athletes and meet Tim Don and some others involved in Super League and then had the big weekend Saturday at Peloton, did a ride and then I did a run and a hike and then met Fed and then hopped back in the car and hustled back up to Boston. I didn't want to bring my bike to New York and have it sitting in the car overnight, so I had to stop back at home.
Speaker 3:The race is about an hour hour and a half from my house, so we chose to get a hotel a little closer. Um, with uh I think we had to be in transition about six, six 30 in the morning, so we got uh, got to the hotel around 10 o'clock that night and felt good and it was a sprint try. So this was the first triathlon and there's a post I just put up Um, this was the first triathlon I ever did two years ago this weekend. This was the first triathlon I ever did two years ago this weekend. So I dropped my time nine minutes last year and then this year I dropped it another 4.33. And the A goal was podium and B goal was to PR and get sub 110.
Speaker 2:And I got 108.01.
Speaker 3:And then, when I finally got on my phone and and had the guts to look at the results, I realized I was 17 seconds behind and had closed like a two minute gap on the run to the third place. Guy off the bike. And I didn't puke at the finish line, as my coach had asked me to do, so I probably had another 17 or 18 seconds in my legs, so it's like ah.
Speaker 2:That's the worst when you're so close.
Speaker 3:And you know, if you had known you could have done it right, I think the difference in our T1 was like 18 seconds, like right there.
Speaker 2:Time to practice those transitions.
Speaker 3:I made up for it in T2. I had a really fast T2, which was awesome. I went no socks, baby powder in the shoes and it was a pouring rainy day. It started pouring when we were in the water. So stay away from me if you want to go to a dry race. This year. The only race I'm doing is pouring. But I'm getting pretty good at it and had a really good swim Again.
Speaker 3:That DeBoer mono wetsuit is phenomenal Night and day. I just knew. I had a good swim in Springfield and I got to the water just confident, feeling good and I looked at the pictures of the start shoot and I'm like in the back row two years ago and then I'm kind of in the middle last year and then this year I was like nudging people out of my way, like no dude, I'm getting to that buoy first. And sure enough I was like second or third to that first first buoy and got on some feet and came out of the water fourth or fifth in my age group, which that's huge for the three of us to be up there and and see the leaders, um, and and then I fumbled with the transition, getting the wetsuit off and um took a quick, quick ketone shot got on my bike and um just started running trains. We we were like the sixth wave, so there were five waves we had to work through some of them being novice, so that made it a little tight on the roadways and it's an open course. It's not fully closed, but some things I can clean up there.
Speaker 3:My bike computer didn't turn on um, so apparently I charged it for like a day and a half, but when I unplugged the charger it also turns the garmin on and it completely drained itself. I forgot to actually power it off um, so lesson learned there, um, but it was nice to go off of perceived exertion too, um, and even though we had some power targets, I think I got there and I definitely had to power up on a few moves to get by people going too slow or riding three wide, but felt good on the run and and negative split of the run and and finished with a really strong finish past like five or six people in the in the final shoot and there was one more I just didn't get. I guess Next year, next year is the podium, so it's, it feels good to be that close and do it all and just kind of do that recap post and think about where I've come in two years and being here and and all this stuff's just crazy and it was a good weekend for sure.
Speaker 3:And then Janine raced the relay and she did the 5K and set her new 5K PR post ACL. So it was a good day, good weekend for the family.
Speaker 2:That is wicked and it's so cool to have an event like that where you can just see, year after year, the time that goes in it's paying off. You're getting faster, you're feeling better, you're getting more confidence, you're pushing up to the front, which is huge. But man, I know that that few seconds is tough when you're that close. But you smashed your previous time new PR. It's wicked to see lots more PRs to come.
Speaker 3:I have a feeling over the next next. While it's nice to be in the running category now, like that was like yeah, I think I was fifth in every one of my age group, but the run has come so far and it's like and you can see where the people who are up at the top podium are in the top five. They're all good runners and I'm putting myself in that category. That was the one that was like I've gone from like an 844 down to a. I think this one was like almost sub seven. So it was like we're getting there.
Speaker 2:Bike for show, run for dough that's what they always say.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what they say.
Speaker 2:How about you Fede? What have you been up to?
Speaker 4:Well, besides getting to know the mayor of Boston in New York, the holder of the keys of the city, the holder of the keys of the city I ran a 5K in Brooklyn just to test out the legs, see where I'm at, and I'm happy to report that I was pain-free, nothing hurt. I mean, I had a goal in mind and I just didn't want to run over the teens, so I was like, as long as I'm in the teens I'm good to go, and I think I ran up 1940-something, which is, yes, it's okay to be back, but a lot of work to do, a lot of work to do and gradually picking up the pace and the volume and everything. But yeah, it was amazing. I got to run it with my partner and then she's slowly getting into this running habit, so that was fun to share with her. But yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 4:It was also nice because it's like a 7 pm race, so that meant no, no, uh, alarm clocks in the morning. Um, yeah, yeah, it was fun, uh, and so the yankees win. So, josh, we missed you, of course. So we, we need to get a team reunion soon. But yeah, happy to share that. I'm back again. You know, running pain-free.
Speaker 3:That's so good, and he brought the heat to Mexico, from Mexico to New York too. So it was probably warmer in New York than it was in Mexico normally.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's so true. I think right now here in Mexico city we are at I don't know, 85 ish degrees, and New York was like 95.
Speaker 2:Oh geez, Not often you hear that reversal.
Speaker 4:Yeah Wild.
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 3:How about you? Jenna how was your weekend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's awesome. How about you, jenna? How was your weekend? Yeah, so this weekend was pretty quiet, but I had a pretty good weekend, the one before. We didn't get a chance to catch up last week, but, uh, got my first multi-sport race of the season in last weekend, and this one's fun.
Speaker 2:It's a kind of grassroots race here that I do every year. Um, so, one of the few races that I'll do more than once. Usually I like to find new locations, new courses, just keep it interesting. But went to the Shnook Multisport Festival and, yeah, came away with a win in the duathlon, so that's always fun. Um, yeah, it's just great to be out there in that race energy again, you kind of forget about it and how much fun it is to be around other people who are just as crazy as you.
Speaker 2:Go out and do something like this on a Sunday or Saturday morning and get after it. Although so, initially I was planning on racing the duathlon on Saturday, and then there was the gravel Canadian champs on the Sunday, I missed the registration deadline. I'm so used to like these races. Usually you can register up until like the last minute and stuff, but no, apparently it closed significantly earlier than that and I so would won the master's category and it was totally a day that I would love. It was cold, it was rainy, it was windy, it was just one of those gritty days like, oh, I think, one of the few people sitting inside where it's warm thing, I wish I'd rather be out there.
Speaker 2:Now here's the disclaimer everyone.
Speaker 3:Jenna's been doing this for a long time. You can't just show up and win races, like she does Most of us. It takes a little bit more work. This athlete can just show up and win. Oh wait, I could have won that race if I had registered in time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been doing this for a little while. Actually, it was funny. I just got a Facebook reminder. My first triathlon was like what was it? Now? It'd be 12 years ago, yeah 12 years ago. My first race was Ironman, buffalo Springs 70.3. And I've got all the memories and pictures from that, along with some pictures of some pretty nasty blisters on my feet. But that was my first open water swim in a wetsuit and a first triathlon. So another case of do as I say, not as I do.
Speaker 2:But, after suffering in 95 degree heat in Texas, I was absolutely hooked on this sport. And then, apparently the same weekend was Ironman Ireland, where I was paddling in the rain and the wind, loving it.
Speaker 3:Something about that weekend rain, I guess.
Speaker 2:Apparently just everything is that weekend and weirdly I was funny because I was seeing the pictures back to back and it was my race number in the first one was 53. My race number at Ireland was 531 it's kind of cool, yeah, so number this weekend was 25.
Speaker 3:I was like everyone's like what did you do? Are you like in the elite field? I was like yeah. I was like no, I think I just hit registration because I'm not missing that there you go.
Speaker 2:I think my number this weekend was 135. It was really just the same numbers over and over again. But no, it was a lot of fun just getting back in that race atmosphere. I I love it just being around people and seeing you know athletes of all ability levels from doing their first events to you know trying to compete from podiums and all that. It's just just fun to be back there. So it was really really good.
Speaker 3:It is. We talk about the community aspect of it all, like the vibe at races and it's I mean running races and mountain bike races, anything.
Speaker 3:A lot of these communities are so small. You see the same people over and over again, like you've been to this race every year and and and having that apples and apples. I have always talked about that. I love that aspect of triathlon because you don't get it going from 70.3 to 70.3. The courses are all different, but when you go to the same place and you see the same people, it was cool. I mean I got to race with Nick yesterday too, which was awesome, so that was the first time sharing a course with him. And then I saw he's done the race before and, like two years ago, like 28 year old Nick Lamb, like stud. Nick Lamb had his his time two years ago.
Speaker 3:It was only 13 seconds faster than my time this year.
Speaker 2:I was like oh, look at this old man yeah. Nick's another one of our teammates at the uh Mono endurance team, so check it out. We've got a pretty awesome group there.
Speaker 3:He did a road bike.
Speaker 2:This year though.
Speaker 2:So and he still finished like he finished fourth as well, oh man, that's always brutal, yeah, but yeah, and that, nothing else too crazy going on training away. I have to. Sadly, I'm going to list my factor hands. Oh, this afternoon it's time to let it go. Now I've raced on my my new argon e119. I am absolutely obsessed with it. So I have got like five bikes at the moment and need to get rid of a few because it's just starting to get ridiculous at this point. But let's get into some racing that's a little bit faster than ours. There are a few pro races this weekend and, like you said, a bit of canadian domination, which I'm never upset to hear about. But that a why don't you tell us what was going on this weekend?
Speaker 4:Yeah, so this weekend we have just won a pro race at 70.3 Mont-Tremblant and this is a very iconic race on the calendar. However, it has been struggling the past few years. I don't know if you guys remember, but uh, last year they had a few issues with fires.
Speaker 2:uh, I think I or like moths or something like that, that were yeah, there was a wildfire, smokes and then you saw, like this apocalyptic view of all these like bugs and moths, just dead, just weird yeah, that was very weird and and this year it wasn't like no fire.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it wasn't fire, it wasn't smooth sailing either. It was the complete opposite Just downpouring rain 24-7. They had to shorten the swim to I believe it was just like a K or like under a K, god knows what was the exact distance, because they just took out a couple of buoys and they said just swim. And they just, yeah. They rounded it up at like a K or a bit under a K.
Speaker 4:We had the likes of Lionel Sanders, ben Kanute, jackson Laundrie, chris Leiferman, ben Kanute, jackson Laundrie, chris Leiferman, matthew Marquardt, who has been doing amazing, amazing stuff coming from the age group ranks, as well as Justin Riley, and we saw the Cornell Lionel taking the win with an impressive 113.47 run and finishing in 335.11. Second place was Ben Kanute in 337.29, so two minutes behind Lionel, and on third place, and very surprisingly, matty Marquardt. Not to say that he's not a good athlete, but I mean he was faster than Jackson Laundrie and Chris Leiferman. So for somebody who came up the age group ranks, he knows what he's doing on the pro field. He looked very strong on the run.
Speaker 2:He really did. It was great to see everyone pushing and Ben Canute passed him at one point. He tried to hang on, he just didn't let Ben go and ended up being seconds behind him. That was really fun to see, cause that is not easy to do near the end of a race, when you're suffering, when you get past to try to stick on them for a while. That takes the mental grit for sure. But it was great to see Ben Knute have a great race out there and see Lionel be back, can we say?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess he's never away. Huh, lionel, he says he's back, but yeah, he's good.
Speaker 1:I think he's in a good place.
Speaker 4:Yeah, with a very special advisor. I told you guys a couple of weeks ago that Jan is the only one that Lionel was going to be able to listen to, so maybe he's listening to Jan's advice and taking it as Godspell, because he definitely executed a very well planned out race.
Speaker 3:Definitely Especially race, definitely, especially like no, it was.
Speaker 3:Uh, I mean, you said it too, gentlemen to see ben like who struggled, like he's all right said this season and to see him come out. I don't think anyone would have picked him for the podium in this race based on the year. He's had and and we probably all would have had jackson up there, matthew Marquardt's, more of the longer full distance and to have him in the two of them like that was a crazy run that they had and back and forth, and back and forth and pushing each other. And then Justin man, that kid throws down power on the bike for a former age group. He was hanging with Lionel on the bike, no problem for the most part.
Speaker 2:Even though Lionel was shaped legs, yeah.
Speaker 3:Lionel's, saving him 10 watts 10 watts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what, though, with the form Lionel's in with this race and stuff, it was a solid field out there, but I would have loved to see how he would have gone at the T100 in San Francisco, like just kind of the way he's getting things dialed in, and with the same situation with the swim where he would have been up there with like sam long and stuff.
Speaker 2:That would have been fun to see how it would go down. Now the technical bike he's definitely talked a lot about how he's indoors all the time, but would have been fun to see yeah, I think him Like Oceanside.
Speaker 3:We know he had a phenomenal swim and there's no breaks in the Oceanside swim. He got a break in the swim this time and the one thing he hasn't been able to do was maintain some of that swim training he had been doing because of the injury too. So he's been biking and running. He probably cut a little bit of a break with the swim shortened, but you never know, I think he's just. He's just way above and beyond anyone else on the bike and his runs phenomenal right now.
Speaker 2:That was really fun to watch.
Speaker 2:Definitely Good race, except for the whole. I don't know if it happened for you guys, but watching it on outside, all of a sudden there's a bunch of guys on a boat talking about fishing and I'm like what is happening here? They cut the feed partway through and started playing some other random fishing show, so it, yeah, missed a bit of the race with that, ended up having to get a VPN and go see the Ironman stream Because we can't see that in Canada and the US otherwise. But that was random.
Speaker 3:I just kind of, like I saw people commenting, I just kind of chucked it up to. Maybe it was like weather problems or whatever, because it was nasty there, I mean it poured.
Speaker 2:It turns out. So when I put the VPN on, I could still see the race just through the Ironman feed. It was yeah, outside like screwed up the programming somewhere. I guess they should really it was nice and it was just on YouTube and Facebook live and stuff. At least we got to see the race sit. I feel like there's been a lot of screw-ups with outside, like it. Just it seems like it comes up pretty regularly, it's not a one-off.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I mean I do get that. It's a free streaming service that they offer for Iron man, but that does not mean that they need to cram like a gazillion ads in between.
Speaker 2:I thought Iron man was bad.
Speaker 3:My God point three, race. I mean, it's not. I mean, lionel did this in three and a half hours, all right, so you've got four, and a half hours of legit coverage that we need in the men's five hours in the women's right.
Speaker 2:Come on, we don't need that many ads makes me appreciate the t100 even more when I'm like sitting there for a two minute ad break every 10 minutes yep anyways. So, uh, what about the women's race?
Speaker 4:we had some fun over there as well we had a lot of fun on the women's race. We saw canadian domination, like in the likes of paula finley, who she's been on a high roll, especially with her teaching ability, winning the canadian national championship and um, yeah, she was just away from everyone clocking a 4.01, so just almost cracked the four-hour barrier. I mean, yes, it was a shortened swim but it was amazing what Paula did on second place. Yeah, I mean, you could. You can see Paula's strength on the bike because Tamara Jewett is a very fast runner and she ran a 1.16.13 and that wasn't enough to catch Paula and that was almost four minutes slower than Paula's finishing time. So you could see that Paula was riding on a different level.
Speaker 4:And on third place we had, from Australia, salthouse, who's who. She's been very consistent throughout this whole pro series. I think she podium as well in 70.3 boulder. A fourth place from australia as well. We had grace tech and yeah, it was a very exciting race. But I mean kudos to tamra for run 1.16 and then the way Paula is riding a bike right now is very, very scary yeah, it was wicked if anyone didn't hear.
Speaker 2:Paula had her fair share of controversy going into the event. So the plan was to do the Canadian National Time Trial Championships on the Friday it was Friday, yeah. And then to go race 70.3 Mont-Tremblant Time trial championships on the Friday it was Friday, yeah, it was two months before, yeah. And then to go race 70.3 Mont-Tremblant and her bike got lost in transit. She's like the day before the race trying to hunt down anyone who can find her bike for her and get it over there. And they end up getting it the day before the event and having to drive four hours to the location to do the time trial championships. She gets up, does the time trial nationals and wins that for the third time in a row, which is crazy impressive, and then goes on her merry way to 70.3 triplot and wins that as well. So it's funny, I do. I put out the press releases for Cycling Canada and I so wanted to put in there Paul Finley wins the TT and then 70.3. But yeah, apparently the cyclists aren't as interested in that.
Speaker 3:I thought it was pretty badass one of the other things I saw too, and she did all this without Eric there with her, like usually, like a lot of her good performances he's there and actually it seems like recently a lot of her good performances he's there and actually it seems like recently a lot of her good performances he hasn't been there. So maybe change of guard there. But he did send with her two different chains, one for the TT and one for the 70.3 race. Do you guys want to kind of explain to the listeners, like why they might've done that?
Speaker 2:That's a good question. Actually, I will say the bike tech, to that degree I'm not as informed on, unless she was changing out uh gearing between the two races. I'm not sure if she did anything there yeah, I would.
Speaker 3:I would imagine it was probably a different chain ring as well too, with the flat typically TT course. As opposed to Mont-Tremblant, it's got a little bit of elevation in it.
Speaker 2:Definitely. Yeah, I'm guessing that would probably be the reason, but yeah, I'm not too sure on that one. Otherwise, Interesting. I know it was great to see that run with Tamara Jewett. Like she hasn't been kind of in the ranks for the last little while here, so great to see that run coming back. I think she was over eight minutes down on the bike so she definitely ran her way up into the podium, which is awesome to see.
Speaker 3:And even Ellie tried to stay with her kind of like Matthew with Ben and you got Tamara and Ben both having awful seasons in their books and both of them having phenomenal runs and second-place finishes out of nowhere. Yeah, and Canada won too on the women's side. And yeah, like Fede said, ellie Salthouse has had a pretty good season. I think that moved her up to ninth in the overall standings.
Speaker 4:There was one tough.
Speaker 3:I saw Aliceberts is having a hard time dealing. She got a five minute drafting penalty and she said it was was her fault and so you take away five minutes. And she was probably I don't know one of the top two or three bike splits anyways without that. And then that puts her in contention and she still moved up to eighth in the overall standings. But that's huge for somebody who's just trying to drop in another 70.3 when they're again another full-distance-focused athlete. So tough for her. But I think she's trying to take the lessons learned out of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was some talk too if Ellie could possibly end up in the top 10 of the Ironman Pro Series just to accept her 70.3s. So we're really curious to see if that works out there. If she's performing consistently, it makes sense that she could.
Speaker 3:She absolutely could If somebody misses. I mean, look what happened to Kat she did a full but had to drop out right, so that could happen to people that are maybe in the top 10.
Speaker 2:And then you get somebody like Ellie doing like 8,000 70.3s and having five good results, she's good to go, yeah it was fun to see some good racing too was the front runners were definitely off the front and running away with it, but it was nice to see we got a little bit of coverage of what was going on behind so we can see some of those podium placings and what actually happened back there. So kudos them for showing a little bit more of that, because, yeah, right now it just seems like we have a few races where there's someone just going off the front.
Speaker 3:You never see them again, so it's interesting if we got something else to watch in there yeah absolutely definitely, definitely a good weekend of what we hadn't really expected to be that big of a race. We knew lionel was coming back, but uh, they made it entertaining for sure they did.
Speaker 2:It was good to see. Well, let's go into our social media and what the f post of the week here? Josh, we'll start with you. What do you got? What's going on at socials?
Speaker 3:Well, mine's going to kind of preempt one of the Olympic results that are trial teams that we're going to talk about. But I don't know if anyone saw Taylor Reid's post from New Zealand earlier today and we've seen some upset and disappointed posts and results. He didn't let anything hold back. He didn't hold anything back on this post. He literally has no clue how he didn't make the New Zealand team and I definitely recommend checking out the post and giving it a read and giving him some kudos or support or your feedback. Let us know how you guys all feel. But yeah, check that post out, taylor Reed, nz and a tough, tough way for him. He's had a good go at it. But we'll talk a little bit more about that on the Olympic discussion of the pod.
Speaker 2:Yeah, disappointing for sure. He did a lot of work for the team to get those spots, to make sure that they were up in the rankings, to not get that and have it be left down to discretionary choices. It's got gotta be hard, especially like he's had such.
Speaker 2:He mentions in his post that he had some of the fastest splits in the mixed relay which you would have thought for sure he's a lock in there and um, yeah, unfortunately they have decided to go a different way, which is really unfortunate, but you know there's it's a good bad problem when you got some talent and have to pick between people, but it was, yeah, would have been good to see him in there. Well, let's move on to what the f and this has to do with someone that we talk about quite often on the podcast. Uh, last year it was mostly because he was on every start list, everywhere, regardless of distance, but this time it could be because we might not see him on many more triathlon start lists in the future. But Christian Blumenfeld.
Speaker 2:There is a lot of rumors going around that he is close to signing a three-year contract with the world tour cycling team, jayko Alula. So is Blumenfeld moving out of triathlon after the Olympics? Is that why he's trying to get this last Kona spot to see what he can do at the Ironman world championships? Will he go entirely to cycling and be done with triathlon, or will he try to do a camp work where he kind of has a foot in both camps at the end of the day? Really curious to see where this goes. But what do you guys think Is he going to go all-in on cycling or try to do both?
Speaker 4:I don't know. I think it's a case of let's see how it goes and we'll decide from there. Probably he's going to enter a couple of one-day races and see what happens. Maybe some TTing, but the way Christian's physique is built, he wouldn't have a lot of chance when it comes with the smaller, lighter guys, because he's a very muscular guy and we know in cycling, watts per kilo and going uphill is where they make their money. So maybe it's a case of they're using him as a domestique and maybe he loves to push himself. Maybe he loves to push himself.
Speaker 4:Probably the amount of races or victories he's going to have cycling is not going to be compared to what he does in triathlon, but I believe this is like a win-win because Christian loves to push himself and cycling teams are well. Now Jacob is going to use that massive, massive VO2 to pull their guys up front and then have them fresh for the big, big climbs. So yeah, we'll see. Definitely exciting, I you know. Personally, I think Gustav more of a cyclist than Christian, but yeah, it's definitely going to be interesting to see what happens. I don't know what Josh and you think about it.
Speaker 3:My initial reaction is there's a lot of ties to his current team, the technology, with the Sentara technology. The cycling team is already tied in with them. They all train up in Endor together. There was a natural overlap there which, at the level he's at in triathlon, it would be weird to see him just drop it and go cycling full-time. And fede brought up a lot of good points.
Speaker 3:But we also know that when the norwegians get specific for an event or they get specific for for one big race, they they dial it in. So maybe they want to see where they can take him and what can they do with the human body and human performance and and and he's certainly been willing to learn it all. He's a I mean he's, he's a brainiac when it comes to this stuff, stuff too. It's not like he's just the guinea pig. He wants to know everything that's going on and be involved and help make a lot of the decisions that are being made with Gustav and Olaf and the whole team. So I wouldn't push it past him, but my guess is he's still going to balance it and maybe go the Cam War for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'd assume in there too, and while he's definitely not a world tour gc contender for by any means, um, you definitely see him on some of the classics and some of those one day hard races where it's just about running through and having that engine that he does have, which is absolutely incredible. But I could see him as the lead out for some of those, um, some of those bigger stage races, just pulling everyone along but still has to make it around. I'm curious to see, I guess, basically what his bike handling skills are, cause riding in a.
Speaker 2:Peloton is a whole different beast than riding on your own on a TT bike. Like those guys are close and I know he does ITU, but that's like 40 guys all together. You're talking like a couple hundred together, all closely packed and riding even tighter, with some technical courses and stages, not some parking lots and streets made technical by cones. I'd be curious to see how he does in some of those races. But you know what you never know with Louis Veltin, it's always an adventure just to watch and see what happens.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, and like Josh mentioned, like these guys are very scientific, so maybe all I was like wait a minute. Taylor Neve is going to two disciplines in the Olympics, why can't we? So maybe this is a way of saying come on, we can do better than this In 2028, we're going to do the triathlon and cycling and maybe some other random events. So maybe this is this way of testing things out and start, you know, mapping the road for 2028.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know he saw Taylor's doing four. He wants five or six in the next Olympics. That's what we had to talk about was Taylor Nivena is saying she's going to be in the cycling road race as well. So she'll be starting the time trial, the individual Olympic triathlon, the mixed team relay and the cycling road race all in one.
Speaker 2:Olympic go, just because, why not? Why not? But I think that's along the lines of the same reason why, even with Paula Finley winning the time trial in Canada, they've got two spots for the time trial and for road. So they're going to be taking athletes more tailored towards the road race for the Canadian team. So unfortunately that means Paula will not be doing the time trial at the Olympics, but it sounds like they're going for the time trial with Taylor in the US and then also having her maybe be as a domestique or be involved in the road race. And again, it'll be interesting to see, see how her bike handling skills are in a massive peloton like that and if she even finishes it.
Speaker 2:Because I think, josh, you're saying it's before the mixed team relay. So is that the reason the us chose the athletes they did? So maybe they keep her out of the mixed team relay? I can't. It's hard to imagine they're gonna let her do the road, the individual, the road race out of the mixed team relay. I can't. It's hard to imagine they're going to let her do the road, the individual, the road race and then the mixed team relay right afterwards, like you got to be cooked at that point.
Speaker 3:I guess it really comes down to her decision and her team's decision and her coach's decision on what they want to do. But triathlon's her sport. We just I mean, we just had this Christian conversation, so it's kind of interesting to see how this plays out. Doing all four is crazy, and we had that conversation with Tommy on a previous podcast. We didn't expect it. And if she does throw it in, does that mean that's Kirsten Kasper's way into the mixed team relay? So I don't know. I mean taylor earned the automatic bid, so usa triathlon had no option that she was on the team, which we wanted anyways, but it doesn't mean she's on the mixed team relay yeah, exactly, that'll still be up to usa triathlon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it'd be interesting because she would be an asset to have in the mixed team relay. She can do some attacks in there and make up some distance. So it'd be really a shame if she's not doing the mixed team relay. Or is it a case of with USA Cycling? She has to start because they brought her out there? Yeah, I'm not too sure. Well, we'll have to wait and see how it all rolls out at the olympics here. It is definitely going to be an interesting one, just even seeing who's going to be out there.
Speaker 2:But, um, speaking of the olympics, we did have a few more team announcements and there have been some upsets. We'll say one of the ones everyone was kind of waiting for and we kind of alluded to some of the issues was, uh, team gb. We finally got the list of names and for the first time in four olympics, there's no brownlee on the start list this year. So, team gb, they've got on the women's side Beth Potter, georgia Taylor Brown and Kate Woff. With Kate Woff which that was another bit of drama there too, I think it was that Sophie Caldwell was trying to get the spot in there- and they decided to go for Kate Woff, and there was some yeah, they had to go to arbitration.
Speaker 2:Figure uh it who they were going to pick the olympic team, and they ended up sticking with kate wall. And then, on the men's side, we have alexi, which is a surprise to no one, and sam dickinson instead of johnny brownlee. What do you guys think about? Uh, no brownlees for the first time in so long.
Speaker 3:I think it was time. I mean, I think we were all kind of expecting this would be the year that it might not happen and this is this was going to be the end of the regime. Um, now brother Brownlee still out there trying to crush T 100 and he's trying to figure out how to put one of those races fully together. So they're not done in triathlon, um, but for the Olympic cycle it looks like that is the end of it, unless they need an alternate or whatnot. But I'm not surprised. I really wasn't surprised. It didn't sound like he was too surprised either, and at the end of the day they went with what they thought was the best. It sounds like on the female side it was a little tougher of a decision.
Speaker 2:Although you know what? I'm kind of surprised because you went like alex, he doesn't really need a domestique in there. He's been able to hold on to these bikes and if you're gonna have anyone who's gonna pull out a surprise performance on one of the big days, it's not gonna be sam dickinson. It's kind of those things where you have that olympic experience and kind of have been there, there was the chance of something cool happening, and especially so strong in the mixed relay, I was kind of surprised.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we definitely have a vibe on the podcast too, where you guys love the veterans and the people with the nuclear. It's like always pushing for the upset.
Speaker 4:I like how Josh says you guys so all right calling us the veterans.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, it's funny. Yeah, you always seem to remember the people who are like when you got into the sport and, honestly, that was a problem for a long time with the uh, the Ironman broadcast was it was uh, they talked about all the people they knew from the days that they were racing, pro with kind of thing, and we can definitely be guilty of that as well, because those are the people that, when you're in the thick of it and so excited about training, you definitely tend to root for, even though they're getting older just as much as you are.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I definitely had a little bit of that imposter syndrome when I was talking to tim don this week too. I mean, that was just like speaking of the old guard. It was like, and he was reminiscing about his awful boston marathon experience and it was, uh, it was. It was a really neat conversation, but again, like seeing some of the people that they're talking about, and him specifically, it's like it's just really cool to be around that type of experience level in this sport.
Speaker 3:Um the knowledge that he has is is crazy. He definitely got asked a lot about the short shoot, so oh yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 2:So, um, did we talk about team usa? I can never remember. We spend so much time chatting outside of this. I can't remember what we talked about on the podcast and what we don't. I think we did, didn't we?
Speaker 3:We did touch on it, yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's see what else came out here. There's a ton of controversy around. I think it was Team Italy Seems to be. There were some people resigning from the Italian Federation and some drama going around over a bunch of politics for who was chosen for the team, even though there were much higher ranked athletes in the standings. So sounds like there's some drama there as well. Team Canada got to give it a shout out there, but the first time we are not going to have a mixed team, really because we don't have enough female athletes, which is very disappointing to see. We haven't had the best last few years here when it came to racing after being on you know, a hopeful high for a while, with tyler mislichuk having some good results in the race ahead of the previous olymp. But what else do we have going?
Speaker 4:on here.
Speaker 2:Team Australia was also announced. I don't think there is any drama there. Did you guys hear of any?
Speaker 3:No, no, no drama there.
Speaker 2:Team South Africa, we've got Vicky Vandermeer and, on the men's side, henry Skuman, jamie Riddle Nothing too crazy there. And then Team New Zealand I think is the last one that has been announced. On the women's side, we have Ainsley Thorpe and Nicole Vanderkay and on the men's side, hayden Wilde and Dylan Mugello. So, of course, no surprise with Hayden Wilde being up there. It'll be really interesting to see how this goes down. Are we going to have another Hayden and Alex showdown for the medals? Will we have another Blumenfeld up there?
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, who knows what they're going to lock in for this race? We've talked about it. I've listened to his most recent episode too, where things went wrong in Yokohama. He didn't have the race he won and then kaglari had the mechanicals um, so I think he was in a better spot already for kaglari, and now they are so race olympic specific now that who knows what? What christian's gonna show up, I mean, I think I think we all expect the best one and in that distance specific ready to go. But Alex and Hayden certainly are out there. Christian talks a lot about. Don't forget about Morgan too. I mean the year he's been having.
Speaker 2:He's been on fire for sure. And have you guys heard about the latest controversy with the Olympics that they're not going to be providing air conditioners? So several countries are bringing their own air conditioners to the olympic village. Oh, it's a whole thing now. Yeah, apparently they're just they're not going to include it. But like europe hot. If it's like hot, hot is it's different than the US. It's like everyone has air conditioning in the US, so at least you get a reprieve from it.
Speaker 2:If you get a heat wave going through France and there's no air conditioning and they're not built to stay cool. That's going to be unpleasant.
Speaker 3:Sounds like a potential advertisement for, like an ice bathtub or something like that.
Speaker 2:There we go yeah.
Speaker 2:Sponsor the entire athlete's village yeah, portable air conditioning coming soon there we go get it done, but you know it speaks to another thing, though. Like that definitely put some of the less well-funded countries at a disadvantage. If you have the uh, the big first world countries coming in, they've all got their air conditioning, everything dialed in, and then you know, some countries may not be able to afford providing that for their athletes. So yeah, it just it seems like an odd choice. I know France is feeling like they've spent a lot of money on this, which is fair, but air conditioning, that seems like it should be a given.
Speaker 3:Yeah, especially in the middle of summer.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It gets warmer, kind of like tea time.
Speaker 2:Well, we have had some fun kind of talking about the Olympics and we're definitely looking forward to see how those races shake out. But, josh, you had some fun going into an even shorter distance with Super Tri and some announcements going on there. Do you want to tell us about it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so Supertri officially had their kickoff for the upcoming season, which starts here in Boston on August 18th and then goes from here to Chicago so it was Wednesday night then goes from here to Chicago, so I think it was Wednesday night. They had a kickoff party in Boston, um, and we had the event organizer, which is called Boston triathlon. It's a longstanding sprint and Olympic distance race here in just South of Boston and you get to race off an awesome Bay and then bike through the city and some of the suburbs and then an awesome little coastal run and that event's been going on for years. He was able to connect with the Supertribe ownership and now, with the new team partnership franchise set up, which I believe that fourth team is about to be announced any day now and they did announce that that that would be coming, so it would have all four teams. But tim don was there representing uh podium racing team and was. They had a nice q a panel with with the members um, and he was just really excited about the opportunity to come to these bigger cities like boston.
Speaker 3:The, the, the athletes who are under contract and all of these athletes are already under contract they know who these teams are are consists of Um.
Speaker 3:I did get some information that was four of the five U S athletes are under contract for super league. Um, what four? We don't know yet and I believe it's like over 85, 90% of the contracted athletes are going to be coming from Paris to Boston to do that first race. So you want to talk about being in shape and being ready to go there. They're going to be ready to go and it's really cool because it's a sprint and Olympic already existing and this is one of the things I think they're going to do throughout the local races is the sprint's going to go, the Olympic's going to go and use their normal courses and then they have a little bit separate transition area set up and the whole super try look and feel is in a different area. So that race will start after the sprint in the Olympic. So all of the age group athletes will actually get to come out, participate, have some post-race refreshments and and watch and be at uh, the super try event.
Speaker 3:And they've partnered with some of the local tourist boards and companies that are going to help promote it. So those campaigns are going to start to kick off and some bibs will go to some local triathletes. I'm going to be getting a bib to the Olympic, which will be really cool. It'll be my first Olympic distance on August 18th and yeah, it's just, it was a really well run event. They had some great food. It was hosted at one of these new, uh f1 arcade facilities, so I don't know if you guys have ever seen that. So, jenny, it's literally a facility of like maybe a thousand f1 simulators that. So the whole place is packed with just people from boston being there as an activity to do on a wednesday night. And then we had a little private room in the back that maybe had like 10 simulators and a bar and stuff for private events. So really cool facility. I guess they're popping up all over the place. This one just opened a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2:That is my kind of bar to go to.
Speaker 3:That'd be so much fun.
Speaker 2:Oh, that sounds wicked. Yeah, it'll be fun to see the next team announced in there and get them rolling Really. Yeah, Super League seems to change things up every year, and this thing's no different. Did they happen to mention if they'll continue to have the short shoot?
Speaker 3:So it is going to be the Enduro style. So swim, bike run, swim, bike run, swim, bike run. We will have the cutoffs, and then obviously there's no cutoff if somebody that far ahead of somebody else that rule has been put in place. But they will have the short shoot and it doesn't necessarily go to the swimmer that gets it, or or so we know there was some controversy around Hayden wild last year and and and Tim was certainly asked those questions and it just comes down to strategy and on the fly-fly decision-making. But the sports media didn't play.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, he's awesome. He just loves the sport, so into it, has so much experience with it. He's always been a fun person to chat to and definitely knows his stuff. So be curious to see how this next Super League season goes down. It'll be fun to watch and see how the changes actually mix up the racing. I don't know if it's going to have too much effect on the actual races, just more so how the teams are structured and the athletes in there. But you know what? They do such a good job at getting this fast, furious, short racing that people who aren't into triathlon are more likely to watch, let's be honest, than three hours of a T100 or eight hours of Ironman. Hopefully they have all the technical stuff worked out too so you can see a lot more splits and information on screen and really make it something fun to watch.
Speaker 3:I mean there's the whole individual race, there's the team race, as we all know. There's the season-long individual bonuses, there's the swim bonus, there's the swim bonus, there's the run bonus, so there's a whole bunch of different incentives for the athletes and for the fans to keep track of. It's definitely fan-friendly because it is quick and fun and exciting. So they're hoping that this new format and franchise kind of holds and it becomes more of that F1 type of mentality and and takes off. So we'll see how it goes. I think they're all excited about it. Um, if you're in the boston area, want to be part of one of these? I know the boston triathlon still has registration spots open, so same with chicago. It's an opportunity to get your own racing done and and then be there for these literally olympic athletes coming right out of the olympics and in top-notch form, running as individuals and teammates.
Speaker 2:so excited about that yeah, I've been to a bunch of the super bowl, previously super league events and if you can go to one to spectate they make it a whole party, a whole event. It's some really cool energy and because they do such short races with laps all around and stuff, you're seeing the athletes constantly and you're seeing what's going down.
Speaker 2:They're good with having big screens and announcer on site so you know what's happening even if you're not watching the feed. So check it out if you can. Those are always a blast to go see. Well, I think the last thing we have going on here is another Ironman Pro Series 70.3 going on this weekend, and we debated how to pronounce this prior to the podcast and I still have no idea. So it is Ironman 70.3 Les Sables d'Alon, vendee, maybe.
Speaker 2:Oui, oui, oui oui, oui, oui, yeah, canadian, but definitely do not speak French, so that is my best guess at it. But we will start with the women's side. Uh, some of the top names we got in there emily moria, marjolaine pierre, katie curran, mayesta h nielsen, chelene bell, katie coley, pamela olivera, danielle blamel, bolle, pamela Oliveira, danielle Blamel, nick Bartlett, a few other names along there, and then on the men's side. Well, actually let's go into the women's first. Not the most packed start list, we'll say. We're definitely getting into the thick of Ironman racing and a lot of the Ironman pro series. Athletes are obviously prioritizing those three ironmans that they can have included. So it seems like some of these 70.3s are a little softer in between. But let's start with you, betty. Who do you think is gonna take the race this weekend?
Speaker 4:um, I am gonna take a local french with, uh, marjorie pierre. I think. She has her own legs to back and she knows the course like the back of her hand, so I think it's an easy pick. So, yeah, choosing her.
Speaker 2:Sounds good. How about you, Josh? What have you got this weekend?
Speaker 3:Jenny, you can go next. Okay, you need to go first one of these days too. You haven't gone first in a while.
Speaker 2:Oh true, maybe I'll save it for the races where I've got it here. I know we definitely we should do the uh, the daily try, uh picks in there too and post those up. Those are a lot of fun. Um, you know what I'm gonna go? Pamela olivera, I think she's gonna go turn it up. Have a great result over there this weekend. How about you, josh?
Speaker 3:I'll go with f1, emily I, I, I believe what fed a. I was actually going to go marjolaine as well too, because I think that whole french aspect home territory and understanding that the lay of the land is going to be a big factor here with not as deep of a field. So I'll go with emily more sounds good.
Speaker 2:On the men's side we have Rico Bogan, Gustav Bieden, Clement Mignon, Arnaud Guillaume, Nicholas Knet, Nicholas Mann, Mattia Cicerelli let's see, oh, Michael Raylert, Cam Wurf, Rasmus Svensson, George Goodwin, Vincent Amell yeah, Rasmus Svensson. George Goodwin, Vincent Kamel yeah, a few decent names on here, so we'll start again with you. Fede, who do you think is going to take it this weekend?
Speaker 4:well, I know you guys know who I'm going to pick. Yeah, I cannot choose other than Gustav for this race, so thank you for picking me first.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, gustav he's gonna take it. I don't know. His run doesn't seem like it's quite back where I was. I was looking at that, but I don't know if his run is quite back where he needs it to be, to be up in that I listen to some of the some of the Norwegian Method podcast.
Speaker 3:He's not running fully yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, fair enough, I'm gonna go. Clement Mignon, I think he's gonna pull it out here. Same deal. Josh was saying there French, got the atmosphere, got the crowds cheering for you, ready to get it out there. How about you, josh?
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go with our buddy who was not able to be a part of the photo. Finish at T100 San Francisco Enrico Bogan, coming wire to wire on this one.
Speaker 2:That's a good shout. That would not be a surprise, awesome. Well, we'll look forward to watching that, hopefully with a few less issues and getting to see the broadcast, but it should be some more fun racing this weekend. Anything else you guys wanted to chat about before we close it out today?
Speaker 3:I forgot. I did get some good news today. Um, what's that unexpected? I totally forgot. I even registered. But new york city has all these marathons have major uh ways of getting in and they've been asking for people to like do a sweepstakes or whatever. And then they threw one out there last week or two weeks ago about a virtual registration for New York and you could do. You have to do a virtual marathon this year within the week of the New York city marathon, so October 28th to November 3rd you have to do a virtual. Well, it was a lottery again and I have friends who didn't get it. And then, all of a sudden, I saw the email come through that I got in. So with that comes a guaranteed entry to next year's New York City Marathon. Congratulations, that's wicked. I'll be running New York in 2025.
Speaker 2:That'll be a very very cool experience.
Speaker 3:So Chicago, new York checked and if Chicago goes well, boston will be 2026.
Speaker 2:There we go. I tried to find a charity one for Chicago. Couldn't find anything that had any spots left in there, so if anyone hears of anyone who can get into Chicago there, let me know.
Speaker 3:We actually had another friend that was with us at Peloton this weekend from Boston she's looking for one too. So Janine and I said we would be doing some research and seeing if we can reach out to our foundation to see if they know of anyone.
Speaker 2:I'll let you know. Let me know if you find any, because that'd be a lot of fun. I know there's one to the Phoenix Foundation, but that is very, very pricey.
Speaker 3:Ours is under $2,000. That's Chicago's in New York. That is magical.
Speaker 2:Yeah, awesome. Well, congratulations, that's exciting. That'll be a very cool experience to go run the New York City Marathon Definitely something on the bucket list to attempt one of these days in Boston. Yeah, one of these days going to try Boston. I mean, these are all stepping stones to get to boston for me, but I'll take them along the way. There we go wicked well as always. Thanks for joining me, guys, and we are gonna follow along with all the racing this weekend and be back next week to chat all about it.
Speaker 4:But have a great night have a good one, ever have a good one, guys.
