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Another Triathlon Podcast
ATP, or 'Another Triathlon Podcast,' is a fresh voice in the world of endurance sports. Our name is a playful nod to the abundance of triathlon podcasts out there and also stands for Adenosine Triphosphate, the energy source of our bodies, symbolizing the relentless energy of triathletes. We want to have some fun with triathlon, not take ourselves too seriously while delivering insight, answer your training and racing questions and give you everything you need from inspiration to information that can help your race day.
At ATP, we dig deeper than race recaps and gear reviews. We explore the untold stories, the science, the ridiculous, and the trials of triathlon. We feature inspiring interviews, expert advice, and innovative training strategies, aiming to inspire, educate, and entertain athletes of all levels.
If you're a triathlete, ATP is your fuel to keep moving forward
Another Triathlon Podcast
Episode 59: What Happened to Jenna's bike?? SuperTri Recap & Predictions, and Ironman Frankfurt Results
The ATP hosts start as usual breaking down the crew's racing and training. Then they recap Ironman Frankfurt and SuperTri Boston.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates
03:03 Recap of Josh's Experience at SuperTri Boston
11:32 Jenna's Race Experience in Australia
23:08 Discussion of Ironman Frankfurt
34:39 Recap of SuperTri Race in Boston
39:17 The SuperTri Format and Athletes' Performances
41:31 Controversial Decisions and Tactical Strategies
45:52 Impressive Performance by Alex Yee and Jeanne Lehair
52:52 Highlighting Bike Splits and Performance Numbers
59:29 Previewing the Women's Race at Ironman 70.3 Tallinn
01:02:44 Predictions for the Men's Race at Ironman 70.3 Tallinn
01:05:38 Analyzing the Current Standings in the Ironman Pro Series
01:08:07 Looking Ahead to the World Championships and Final Standings
The conversation covers topics such as the importance of pacing, the challenges of racing without a bike, and the impressive performances of Kristian Blummenfelt as well as how the Frankfurt podium was unexpected.
Overall, it was an exciting weekend of racing with a few unexpected results. The conversation covers the highlights and analysis of the recent triathlon race, with a focus on the SuperTri format. The hosts discuss the performances of various athletes, including Jeanne Lehair, Georgia Taylor-Brown, and Kate Waug. They also talk about the controversial decision of a team manager to give the short chute to Cassandre Beaugrand instead of Georgia Taylor-Brown. The conversation then shifts to the men's race, where they discuss the tactics used by the podium racing team and the impressive performance of Alex Yee and match up with Hayden Wilde. They also mention the retirement of triathlete Daniela Ryf and discuss upcoming races and predictions for SuperTri Chicago and Ironman 70.3 Tallin.
Takeaways
Pacing is crucial in triathlon races to ensure a strong finish.
Racing without a bike can be challenging, but finding alternative solutions can lead to unexpected adventures.
Kristian Blummenfelt performance at Ironman Frankfurt was impressive, especially considering his limited training on a TT bike.
Jeanne Lehair's win at SuperTry showcased her strength and determination.
The hosts highlight the importance of having a coach to provide guidance and prevent overtraining.
The SuperTry race in Boston was fast-paced and exciting, with athletes pushing themselves to the limit. The SuperTri format adds excitement and drama to triathlon races
Team managers' decisions can have a significant impact on race outcomes
The retirement of Daniela Ryf marks the end of an era in triathlon
Upcoming races and the World Championships will determine the final standings in the Ironman Pro Series
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Speaker 2:This is another triathlon podcast. Enjoy the ride. Welcome to another triathlon podcast brought to you by Mono Apparel. This is a podcast where we have a little bit of fun talking all things triathlon. We don't take any of it too seriously and chat about our own experiences in the age group field as well as what the pros are getting up to these days. And there is a ton of racing. We have got so many races to recap and what the implications of those races are, because it's been an action-packed weekend. But let's jump into it. Check out the the crew. See what's going on in their world better. What have you been up to? Missed you last week?
Speaker 3:hey guys, yeah, yeah, I missed you uh, no, just been following along, uh, your travels and uh, josh's uh you know, v VIP access and everything and his race. So, no, just being a fly on the wall following you guys and super excited to talk about what you went through over the weekend and training Training's been going well. Today I did my first track workout in a while, which went really well, other than the the fact that my calves are killing me right now. But, um, yeah, yeah, the track never lies. It's. It's like riding your tt bike on a time trial. It's. It puts you on the spot that you are physically so eager to to keep grinding and training. What about you guys?
Speaker 4:I've been excited watching you. I've been excited watching you get back at it Fed for sure. It's cool to see and I know how excited you are and then to see in the group chat, your name on the start list and it's real. So it's cool to see you getting ready for a big race and you're going to be ready to go when it comes time for Worlds.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's the plan and, like we talked about, it may be like a blessing in disguise. You know the injury and everything now that I'm going to be able to be fresh, to build towards 70.3 Worlds, so, yeah, excited. Still have a couple of months for that, so yeah, things are looking good, I guess.
Speaker 2:That's so good to hear. We'd love to see you coming back, but it'll be great to see. It looks like there's going to be a big monogroup. Do you want to tell everyone what your next race is coming up?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it's going to be a big group. I'm racing 70.3 Santa Cruz with a lot of Mono teammates you know, chad, phil, just to name a few, a couple from the California area. It's going to be exciting and there's going to be a lot of us racing. So I'm super excited for that and looking forward to share the start line with those guys and, yeah, share how the race went afterwards absolutely well.
Speaker 2:We had another exciting weekend here, Josh. You got up to a race and a bit of spectating. How'd your weekend go?
Speaker 4:ah, it was uh a crazy week. Crazy weekend, I mean. We started the week off kind of with our interview, uh with michael dulce and talking about super try, and then the rest of my weekend was super trying a triathlon and olympic tries and um olympians.
Speaker 4:It was just uh unbelievable for for that to all be taking place in boston with super try just brought a whole cool atmosphere to the city that we're not used to really in this area. Uh, things are here about pro sports on the big levels of the celtics and the bruins, and when you get olympians in town like 10 days after the olympics, it's just a really cool treat. So on saturday morning I co-hosted a shakeout run with human powered health and nick lamb from mana joined me and parker spencer from the project podium and stars and stripes. Super tri team brought a bunch of his athletes, including Seth Ryder, vasco. Katie Zafaris was there. Katya was there, and then a bunch of the executives from the Super Tri team and their film crew were there. It was really neat. One of the co-owners of Wahoo was there. It was just really really neat. One of the co-owners of Wahoo was there. It was just really really neat and it all came together within like a two-week time span. That's awesome. I led Olympians on a run around the Charles River in.
Speaker 4:Boston and I knew they probably had a little bit of a workout to do too, so I didn't know how well I'd be able to hold my own and I was going too slow, but I I guess an eight minute pace was about right that day and uh. Then then a couple of them did some strides and stuff along the river and uh, just really really cool. And then we hung out at human powered health and checked out the technology in the space and they have this really nice roof deck that we uh had some drinks and food at. And they were off and headed off to their uh obligations at the kids race for boston triathlon. So quinn did that and then they had their pro meeting. So just a really cool day.
Speaker 4:Saturday I went down to the beach afterwards and did a recon swim of the course. So I got like the inside of the course it was a out and back or in, around, kind of like a triangle or square type shape and uh, so I did a swim recon, which was neat first time I'd ever been able to do that at an actual course. And then, uh, I did a quick pike recon, which ended up coming in very handy on the day of the race and, uh, chatted with a bunch of people that were in town and and then early, early rising sunday morning for my race my first ever olympic distance race and uh never felt as good as I did that day, getting ready to start a race, just comfortable, ready to go.
Speaker 4:No, it's not my a race, so I was like let's just go have fun. Front line of the start, corral, on the wave, and uh took off and felt really good and then all of a sudden people just started swimming over top of me and over the top of me and they didn't know which way they were going and I was trying to sight and go straight as possible and I I just kind of had to take a moment and pull up and uh backstroke a little bit and catch myself and let some people get out of the way and find my own little lane and once I did that, I negative split the swim, which was really cool to see the stats on and still right around my goal time a little above, but right around that and then I got into transition and I knew I was going to have my best bike ever as long as I stayed upright and it again started to rain.
Speaker 4:So if you don't want rain, don't come race with me, apparently, uh, because that's been my 24 season is racing and rain, um, but obviously I've been practicing in it, uh, so felt good.
Speaker 4:It was a flat course. I think the elevation total was like 90 or something like that. Watts to power, watts and speed um, by far my best power output, best speed output, and I got off the bike and I was like I could have done another 50 miles, so that felt really cool. Uh, third best bike split in my age group and felt great on the run, had the fifth fastest run, which, again for me, I used to be like the 20th or 30th in the age group and now I'm top five run split and had a great day. Finished, I think, eighth or ninth in my age group. The timing was all messed up but, uh man, I'll tell you, super tribe brought the talent to the age group race for sure, because that time I put up would have been third last year and that was kind of how I based my goals.
Speaker 4:so third last year was only good enough for ninth this year and everyone showed up and there was some crazy fast times in my age group but I was totally stoked with it. Nick lamb was waiting at the finish line when I got in, so it was really cool to do that. My wife was along the course and it was like because of all the loops she was able to see me a bunch of times and just really neat to see all the different people out there run and race with and fight with some really fast people. And then it was from the awards ceremony right over to Super Try and and I had all access, pass and go into any area I wanted to, but really felt like and Jenna mentioned this before we jumped on like just taking the whole thing in for the first time is super cool.
Speaker 4:And I was literally three feet away from Hayden Wild's bike rack or any bike rack I wanted to be next to. And then when they go running off the beach and like you're right there, um, it's just just a really, really neat experience. If you ever get a chance to go to a super try event, highly recommend it. Uh, definitely catch it online and watch on supertrycom if you can't make it to one of these, because the fomo is real, uh, jenna's already said she's going to try and find a way to get to chicago for the next race and officially going to chicago after
Speaker 2:yeah, after watching all your videos and stuff, it just reminded me how good these races are. I went to the one in singapore, one in majorca, and, yeah, I have to go back. And it's such an awesome team that puts it on together too, so that makes it a lot more fun. But yeah, after watching all that, I decided I had to go back to the next one. They're in north america, so kick this out again. We had too much fun for me to not go to this one now the question is are you going to hop into the chicago triathlon?
Speaker 2:uh-huh no more on why I'm not running at the moment. Later.
Speaker 4:Oh boy, yeah, so it was just, and then the whole thing was like it was done by like 3.30. I mean, I was like I'd been up. I think I got up at four, four o'clock something like that.
Speaker 4:That's a half day, so it had been a long, long day, which is why I didn't do a lot of the interviewing. And the ladies from Vice Triathlon were there and they were doing some interviews and even they were taking the whole thing in and it was just a really cool community. There was a whole bunch of people from Barlow that were there Mike Bunton from Rudy and Synergy was there and just the same people that you get to see at all these big races and really just that community event that we talk about all the time. And the people from super try are just amazing. They kept coming up and asking me like what I thought and how was it and how was the experience? Was anything that they could do different? And just really need to to have that access and to have them come to me and make sure everything was going all right.
Speaker 4:And I've been in communication with them since, making some connections for them in chicago. So they're already talking to uh, one of our teammates hope to to pick her brain on maybe some people that they need to meet while they're there in chicago. So I'll add jenna to the list in those communications and and I like in the middle of the race. I'm like, hey, maca jenna says hi, he's like yep, isn't it? So it's just that kind of level of fun, and even like when, without the VIP access, the fans on the other side of the shoot are right there at the finish line and you're right there on the course itself, because it's only the one-mile loop, like we talked to Michael last week. So really, really awesome weekend. It was one of those things that just kind of further entrenched my love for the sport.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do a good job on site too, kind of keeping you up to date. You'll hear the commentators on the feed, but they actually have commentators on site to the big screen, so you usually get a pretty good idea of what's going on in the race, unlike some other events where you have to have your phone playing at the same time to have any clue what's going on.
Speaker 4:They make sure it's a whole experience out there on the race course yeah, the commentators are unbelievable, going all day long doing interviews um interviewing the managers, making fun of the uh race director and whether or not he's going to pull his red flag on kitty's oh tomo, by the way the yellow flag here so funny tomo's like this big, intimidating figure and he's got that elimination flag and he just goes up to the accent but he's like the sweetest, gentlest guy in person so it's so funny to see him race day.
Speaker 4:He days just like stone-faced, you're eliminated and you'll catch a little smirk from him every once in a while too, because he knows what he's doing absolutely well it sounds like it was an epic weekend. You've changed it was and I can tell you've changed locations in australia. Is that like the opera house in the background?
Speaker 2:it is yeah, but you know I got a room with a good view of over here in Sydney now, so I thought I'd have to tease the boys a little bit. With Sydney Opera House and the harbour in the background here, it is stunning. Got in last night and, yeah, happy to finally be in Sydney. I was coaching for Macca and the team at Macca X for years and I've heard about all these training locations and stuff and all these key places I have to go to, so definitely going to try to do some touring around, yeah, while I'm here for like 48 hours, but yeah, it um had a bit of a weekend. Uh, it was fun to have my first trip to Australia. Other than arriving to Australia, pretty much nothing else went to plan this weekend. It was definitely an adventure for sure.
Speaker 2:If you guys didn't follow along, I was down here for it was supposed to be the Standard Duathlon World Championship. So World Triathlon is putting on their triathlon festival and it's like 12 plus races over like 10 days or something, and it's just every format of triathlon festival and it's like it was like 12 plus races over like 10 days or something, and it's just every format of triathlon except for, I think sprinting olympic they're doing separately at another world championship. So you got press, you got duathlon, you got the long distance try. You got all sorts of things off the bike, off the phone, um. So yeah, this whole year was kind of a switch up, going from ironman my favorite distance, to trying something just short and fast with Duathlon, and I spent a lot of time getting my TT bike all dialed in using that Ghibli arrow sensor to make sure I'm super aerodynamic, because Duathlon is definitely a runner's game it's like it's runners that can ride a bike where triathlon it's definitely a little bit more balanced and the bike comes into play more. So my shot this race was to have a wicked fast bike split to try to overcome some of that deficit to the runners.
Speaker 2:So I show up in Townsville and actually first I show up in Sydney and I find out my bike is still in Canada. Like oh, okay that. Oh okay, that sucks, but I came in on Monday. I came early, just in case something like this happens, so try not to stress. Same thing happened in Thailand last year. The bike will show up on the next flight. They tell me, next day, no bike. Yeah, we're not really sure where it is right now and my air tag that's in there is not connecting to anything. It still shows back at home. So I'm like, okay, that's weird. And so, as the week went on, got to Wednesday, still no bike. Still they don't know where it is. So they can't give me an ETF when it's showing up. And honestly, that was starting to play with my head a bit.
Speaker 2:So the race was on Sunday but I had to check my bike in overnight on Saturday and I was kind of thinking it would suck to come all this way to just not race at all. So I had also qualified and signed up for the Sprint Duathlon World Championships. I wasn't planning on racing it because it's draft legal, so I would have had to bring a road bike too, and I've never raced a draft legal Sprint Duathlon. So like, okay, I'll focus on the uh, on the standard in there. But when it was getting down to no bike no idea when it'll show up I figured it might be easier to find a road bike to borrow than it is to try to find a tt bike. In a small town in australia everywhere was sold out of bike rentals, like there was not a chance of finding a bike rental in this little town. Um, bike shops had like shipped in a bunch of bikes but they're all gone.
Speaker 2:So I, yeah, I put it out on social media and kind of crossed my fingers a bit and, man, it was incredible from this triathlon community, just the response, the support. I was overwhelmed with how many people were just willing to help, like reaching out to teammates, reaching out to people they knew traveling over, just putting it out everywhere. I I'm so grateful and it was just really cool to see that. And I had some offers of one person who was racing a few days later and she's like, no, no, you can't my bike. I'm like, well, it's definitely best I can't do anything with tiki bars and stuff, so I'll take off the extensions, adjusted hymen, stuff, like racing in a few days and you're helping me like, screw with your bike setup, take off your tiki bars, and all like it was so generous. But then luckily found another person who wasn't racing, this kind of lived in and around town, so and they offered to let me use their bike. And I felt better about that because I would feel so bad when someone's very set up. But it was just incredible. It was someone saw my social media posts, messaged all their teammates and someone saw it and said, yeah, I'll hand this perfect stranger my bike and come deliver it to their hotel room. And then she ended up bringing me a helmet and bike pump and everything. I was just, oh my gosh. I was overwhelmed with the support and the generosity of so many people, because most of these people I'm a person on social media. They don't know me, I'm really a stranger. So that so many people are willing to help with something pretty incredible. And it helped attend too, because if I were sitting in my hotel room for five, six days just crossing my fingers that my bike would show up, I would have been a hot mess just stressing out, waiting. So yeah, getting that road bike and knowing at least I can race something.
Speaker 2:It turned from really trying to win another world championships to let's just go have an adventure and have some fun with it. I've never done a draft legal sprint duathlon May as well do the first one halfway around the world on a borrowed bike with a couple days notice. So I ended up checking in for the sprint duathlon and had some fun out there. It was definitely a totally different format. Draft legal is crazy, crazy. I've done some um bike racing so I can ride in a pack and stuff, but with the draft legal it's so crazy because you got the run first. The fast runners go off. Unfortunately, that blunts my bike ability a little bit so I could see them on the out and backs taking turns in a little echelon kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, just went hard on that bike and then ran off it and I gotta admit there was a little bit in the back of my head saying, okay, go hard, but what if your bike shows up, kind of thing. And that was not the right mindset, but had a blast. Show or ended up fourth, which is, oh, the tough one, is so close. Um, yeah, so did that, had a blast that my bike ends up showing up three hours before bike check-in closes on Saturday. It's been missing for five days at this point and I just get a call from a random number on my phone hey, we're downstairs with some luggage for you. I'm like, wait what? So put the bike together, did a quick spin and got wrapped up for a sunday for the standard dwell phone, the one I was actually chasing out there.
Speaker 2:Um, and you know, I'm just kind of hoping, hey, maybe the legs just needed the tune-up of the sprint after not riding for a week and there'll be good race day. That was not the case. I'm not anymore, so apparently I can't go full gas 48 hours apart, race to race, and still have good legs. So went out there, got started, legs were kind of tight and heavy and started to tighten up and then, unfortunately, that hip issue that I got going full gas at a B race a month ago. That caused me to stop running for a while. It flared up.
Speaker 2:So it's just a case of kind of you know what, let's enjoy the rest of the race here. It's really kind of the end of my race season and I'm somewhere very, very cool and just make it to the finish line without doing too much damage. So it's been. I don't actually I don't know I've ever done a race where it wasn't like full gas to the finish. It was a totally different experience, just checking out the scenery, enjoying it a little bit more and just kind of cruising along. But while it wasn't the result I wanted, it was just so cool to see just this amazing triathlon community, them coming in, coming to my rescue. So much support, so many cheers along the way and yeah, I'm just so grateful for that and it turned into a fun adventure that you know.
Speaker 4:Doing two world champs within 48 hours on the other side of the world can't complain too much yeah, it's hard to complain when, a you're in australia for the first time and b you're still competing and getting out there and racing. And yeah you, you got a little niggle and you'll, you'll get that taken care of. But I mean fourth place in a sprint duathlon, I mean like that's crazy. But the speed and yeah, I mean kudos to you for going through what you went through and still toeing the line and get yeah, it was fun to do something, just different, right it's.
Speaker 2:It was the first time I felt like a newbie in a very long time and that's kind of a fun feeling after having done this for so long.
Speaker 3:No and especially, uh, the mental aspect of how you handle the, the bike situation and everything. I think that speaks greatly about yourself and your adaptability, because, uh, sometimes we plan for everything and then you know life throws curveballs at us, and this case was not having your, your bike with you, and you handle it very well and executed like a very, very solid race. So that's also something to be proud of and, uh, yeah, super happy for you for that well, thank you guys.
Speaker 2:I sure appreciate that. It was, yeah, kind of a crazy turn of events. But next year, going back to iron man, the distance and a level of intensity I like a lot more. But this was a fun departure to try something a little bit different there, a little SVO too, a little bit more. I miss my six-hour bike rides. That's something I never thought I'd hear myself say, but I miss my bike rides. Yeah Well, there was also some people racing that were going slightly faster than me, even in Ironman distances, faster than what I was doing at spring distance. But we had a few races going on this weekend. How about we kick it off? We'll get the Ironman stuff out of the way first. I'm sure we're going to want to dive in even deeper to Supertribe, but Fede, what happened at Ironman? This I don't think any of us called this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was a very good race to watch. I mean I stayed up late and then woke up early to watch the finish line, but it was an incredible race. We had a lot of people coming for this race Patrick Lange, sam Long, mr KBian blumenfeld, christian hoggenhaug, just a lot of people coming into race and a lot of them were looking to, you know, get those last kona slots. A lot of them were there to toe the line with good athletes like braden curry, who's already qualified, but he, you know, he loves to race and he thrives in in championship environment. So he was there as well. And a very, very, uh cool race to watch. I mean, two weeks ago we saw christian finishing no, not not winning the gold medal at the olympics, which was his goal for this year. But then he goes, goes to Ironman Frankfurt and you know just, he said he hadn't ridden his TT bike in a while. He rode it like for a week and a half and all of a sudden he got a course record and took the win. Christian took the win in 7.27, ran a 2.30, 2.29 with a port-a-potty stop, you know, vomiting himself on the run. Just incredible on the glamorous lives of triathletes. And on second place we had, from the Great Britain, kieran Lindors, who might seem like a surprise for a lot of people, but this guy has been chipping away and slowly but surely climbing himself up to the top. On third place, from Italy, we had Gregory Barnaby and in fourth place, christian Hogenhaug, and yeah, it was a very, very interesting race.
Speaker 3:We saw Patrick Lange taking the race by the horns and doing a lot of work on the bike. He was on a mission. He wanted to bridge the gap on the front group, but it wasn't enough. I mean, he was like eight, nine minutes behind and with the horsepower that the front guys were pushing, it was a very, very for Patrick to to uh come with the win. And he has a bit of a love-hate relationship with Frankfurt and this Ironman Frankfurt course, uh, he has never won there, so he's always two, three, four or five uh, but has never taken the top step of the podium, uh, for one reason or the other. But it was good. I mean, I was very pleased to see Patrick fighting till the end and just shows the type of character that he is.
Speaker 3:A lot of guys didn't have the race that they wanted, like Brayden, for example, but just talk about Christian Blumenfeld. He was To me, he looked like he was on cruise control, but then you see him vomiting himself all over on the run and then going to the port-a-potty. And he I was just talking to a friend over the weekend and I believe he has the ability to go to a dark place much easier than the average athlete and to stay there for a long period of time. Because, uh, that 230, 30, uh, um seven marathon must have been super painful. Uh, after after the olympics, I've been training for a short course for four months. So, yeah, kudos to christian and uh, yeah, what an amazing venue. The germans always put up a very, very, uh nice show and uh, yeah, hopefully he can deliver at kona. It's gonna be interesting, uh, because, uh, uh, right now I see a uh sole favorite for Kona and that is Magnus, but Christian and potentially Gustav might turn up the notch a little bit come October. But what did you guys thought about this race?
Speaker 2:it's definitely crazy. Christian blumenthal all going in yeah, I'm just gonna cruise around, just need to, or just need to validate that kona spot to get out there race day and then just destroys everyone. I am impressed by the um, the puking on the run move. That is something I have not seen before and it just doesn't seem to phase him. That's the craziest part. He's just like okay, that happened, keep me along, and it's over to a 232. That was absolutely insane and it really you know what you got.
Speaker 2:I'm so curious to see what he does in kona. This is not after. Specific work hasn't been on a tt bite. That is a very scary proposition for the other male pros going into that. But what I also found interesting was just how the names we were expecting. No one seemed to have a good day, like it was really. You look at Katja Plena in eighth. You look Sam Long went over there and he ended up in, I think, 22nd. Yeah, I'm curious to see what it was about that course and that day, whether it's the fatigue over the season or people just had off days. But that was not what I expected at all. What do you think, josh?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean it certainly wasn't what most people in the triathlon community expected. Any podcast you listen to, any article you read nobody picked that top 10 for sure and especially not in that order. We all thought there was a chance that the Kona slots could drop to the 20s low 20s potentially, with the amount of people that had already had theirs racing. It went to nine and there were six of them, like that's a regular.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so many names that you would expect it's crazy how that all played out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, definitely that was just crazy. And then, what do you guys think on Sam Long? So it seems like you know he started off this season with an absolute bang and he is pretty. That's common for him. He kind of comes in firing on all cylinders at the beginning of the year, right or wrong, and then he went through the t100 series, had a couple good results and then had a couple off days. There. To me it kind of seemed like he saw that he wasn't having those winning results, so may as well kind of turn the season around trying to have a good iron man or get to conor or have that as a backup plan. That's what it looked like from the outside, I don't know. What do you guys think?
Speaker 3:Why did he end up deciding to do this race? I think Sam can't help himself and he just wants to race the best guys out there. He just wanted to see if, with the, the fitness that he had, he could have, uh, you know, got a solid race. I think that's just uh, pure, pure emotion and, you know, wanting to toe the line with the best guys. And he took the chance and, uh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3:It was a gamble, uh, a long shot, but, um, yeah, kudos for um for going out there and trying to perform with those guys, knowing that you've been training for the T100 and 70.3s. Because it's like you mentioned, jenna, ironman is a different beast. It's not VO2 type of work. I mean nowadays, 70.3s and the T100 training looks a lot more like the ITU or short course WTCS. Sorry, the WTCS, short course type of training, with the exception of on the bike, but it's very much VO2 demanding and very upper threshold dependent. And when you're trying to switch systems, only if your name is christian blumenfeld, you can do that overnight, but um, yeah, I guess we saw. We saw that happen to sam over the weekend. What about? What do you think, josh?
Speaker 4:I mean the. The crazy part is too, though. Like we talk about sam finishing in what 22nd and not getting the Kona slot and it being a bad race, and then you start to look a little deeper and it's like this was, I believe, either his PR at the Ironman distance or one of his top two or three times ever. So he's done a lot of Ironman racing with Ironman training and done well, and yet this was one of his top performances ever. It was just. That's how fast these people have gotten and how everyone else has gotten, especially when they have a block for ironman training. Now, christian aside, everyone else trained for this race for the most part. Uh, you can put like trevor foley and sam, like well, now you start talking wow, those guys need coaches now because they need to stop racing so much, and someone needs to tell them that, because a couple of guys that don't have coaches are the ones that totally had bad days in terms of what they went there for.
Speaker 3:I mean you've heard DNF.
Speaker 4:I mean he pulled up at 85 miles into the bike and kind of rolled it in, but he's taking a full week off, so I think maybe that will help him. But yeah, I think sam's ready to go after kona in a world championship at the ironman distance, but it has to be his sole focus and he's not there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely and a little caveat on that one. Um, I'm hearing that that bike course was short by a fair bit in there, so a lot of people are getting some pr bike times over there for sure. But yeah, you make a good point with the coaches. We see some top performances and I think that's one of those cases where you need a coach just to almost slow you down. At times, too, we see it with a lot of these top athletes that don't they kind of race hard and get right back into it right afterwards and you see these injuries pop up or fatigue pop up. Um, I know my own coach a lot of his job is just telling me to chill, not do as much as I want to, and so I'd be curious to see if it'd go any different. But yeah, sam seems to say hey, I've only got so long in this sport, so I'm gonna do it the way I know it works and go from there and you know it's.
Speaker 4:It's definitely worked for him in a lot of regards yeah, and we'll talk a little bit more about christian hogan hogg's bike um in the social media post of the week in a little bit. But my god, those the the bike numbers were crazy and what christian did without the training. Just just, here's the question does christian change his training that much for kona, like, how much better can you get than what he showed up at? So, like, do they, do they go to altitude and just keep doing what they're doing and do it on a tt bike and that's the only change he.
Speaker 2:I'd almost question how much did his training change to go to the olympic distance, more so than the Ironman distance? It seemed like they're still putting in crazy volume and then the last little bit was kind of pulling up with some intensity. So he seems like he again. We're always looking from the outside, but they're pretty steady, high volume. So something like an Ironman is probably training day for him. But that was just just crazy, so impressive. And yeah, he's gonna shake up kona incredibly well if he recovers from this and gets ready to fire again, and we know he knows how to race.
Speaker 2:Well, we had some other races going on this weekend the one that josh got to see up close and in person with super try um. First off, very impressive, with the commentators not saying super league throughout it. They did not mess up once, which was seriously impressive after like six years of calling it one thing and actually getting on board with the revamp brand um. But yeah, fede, why don't you tell us what went down at Supertri in Boston?
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I was actually thinking about this, and I think Josh, because he was there physically, I think I'm going to pass it on to him so he can give us the details and what the triathletes smell like on transition, because he was right there.
Speaker 2:Who's the best smelling trap?
Speaker 4:I was pretty close, yeah, yeah, I don't know it was. I think that that salt water and the breeze off the ocean just kind of took over. Whatever the, whatever the true athlete smell was. But uh, yeah, the boston water and the we had it, was it? It stopped raining for the woman's race in between my race and theirs and it stopped raining so they had a pretty dry course which at those speeds and on those corners and all the turns that they got to do and the technicality of it on the bike and even the run there I mean leave in transition, the hairpin turns are unbelievable and how quick they take them in like shoulder to the railings. But wow, yeah, they all started on the beach with a beach run into the water and a quick swim and our standard lead pack swimmers were there getting out of the water and off to get that first short chute pass and I guess the race kind of played out as expected.
Speaker 4:In the female race we started to see maybe some athletes who had gotten ill or had a little bit of the post-olympic fatigue play into it, like cassandra. We found out she'd been wearing a boot post-olympics, um, so her foot kind of flared up so she dropped a little bit. Katie's affairs had been sick and her training hadn't been as what she had hoped for and she was the first one to get that red elimination flag, unfortunately. But man, she stuck around and cheered for every athlete as they came through transition. Not just stars and stripes, every athlete, and that was really cool to see. And and then they were off. I mean the first transition onto the bike and how quick I mean they're off and the goggles into the suits for some of them. Some of them put their goggles into the, the transition bins. Don't miss the bin, because then you'll get a, a penalty, as we'll find out from dorian connix later. Uh, but it's fast, it is super, super fast, Coming through transition a bunch of times and the lead pack kind of broke away and you can see a lot of the first swim bike run.
Speaker 4:Again, we talked about this last week with Michael Deuce Swim bike run, swim bike run, swim bike run and you had a lot of athletes doing this for the first time and never done super try before or so amped up that they kind of redlined it in that first leg of the triathlon and then they have to go into the water again after. Let's see probably a good a hundred 150 meter run from transition down to the beach into the water and swim again. So you could see on that second triathlon how different the packs changed and the race really started to form and those who paced themselves correctly started to show up. And and I thought we had a chance with taylor spivey. She, she took the lead onto the run on the final leg of the third lap and, uh, man, she had a heck of a swim on the after the second triathlon and kicked it off, came out and had a great bike. She worked hard on the bike and, but the short shoots came into play and genie laher had the short shoot on the run and she took off to the front and and wasn't to be seen again.
Speaker 4:And, uh, georgia, taylor brown and kate wall second and third. But genie laherre won again. I think she won the first leg of last year's season too, so she's off and running and, uh, what a cool finish and and how awesome they all are to get to the finish line completely red line tax. I mean you can. That's the one thing about being up close is you can see how hard they're breathing and how hard they're working. It's like you still have two more triathlons to go. And it was, it was, it was, it was a heck of a race. Great commentating, great in in action interviews, uh, talking to the fans, interviewing the fans, and but being right there in the vip area, being able to walk to the beach and see that whole aspect of it and then watch how quick these transitions are, I mean it is. It is literally f1 of triathlon, for sure.
Speaker 4:And uh, kudos to jenny jenny, jenny, jenny, jenny, jenny, jenny jenny jenny jenny, jenny, jenny jenny jenny jenny jenny jenny, jenny, jenny, jenny, johair, george, taylor brown and kate waugh for grabbing the points um for their teams, and taylor with a heck of an effort, because stars and stripes had a tough start, with katie getting eliminated right off the bat yeah, and I feel for taylor spiley.
Speaker 2:She's like perpetually, for it's happened on so many of these races. Oh, I feel for her there. It just got a few athletes who kind of seem to have their spots in races, but yeah, she had some gutsy racing out there. She's always fun to watch in super try and, like I was saying before, just one of the nicest people. It was shocking to see katie zephyr is out, um, but you mentioned that she had been sick makes more sense because she was the queen of super try for years, just absolutely decimating people, and especially at this format. She was so good at just waiting and getting stronger as the races went on getting that. She just has that endurance and that prettiness, um, so it was kind of a bummer to see her be out, but hopefully she'll use some of that and come back in the next series there. One controversial pick we had here. We had a team manager, maca, giving his short shoot to cassandra bogran, who is kind of in the back there probably hoping to get her on the podium.
Speaker 4:But you gotta wonder what the race would have looked like if, uh, if he had given it to gtb instead so a little insider information, because this is what you do get to see when you're two feet away from this action. When he gave that to her and told her that she was getting it as she came out into transition, she was done Like she was like no, I didn't even think she was going to continue Like she was hurt.
Speaker 4:She was going from the bike to the run and he tells her this and she's like, and it was like. It was one of those moments where you're like, man, is the athlete over, pushing themselves because now she has the short shoot, knows it. But yeah, she's. She certainly was not in top form when she found out and and kudos to her for pushing all the way up to where she got. So, um, I I mean, even when she finished, you could see her starting to grab onto the foot and she's talked about it afterwards too. So I hope she's ready to go for Chicago. It sounds like she will be, but yeah, it was definitely an interesting decision because he had two girls up top that could have used it for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like Mac and MG kind of have a history of that, and even Tim too when he was team manager, where they kind of risk it on someone who's a little farther back to try to get more points on the final placings in the end there. And you know, sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't like today, but it definitely keeps the racing interesting. I'm glad they kept in the short shoots too. I know people love or hate them, like Dulce was talking about, but they definitely mix it up. And let's move on to the men's race, where you definitely have to think it had an effect with the short shoot there. Jonah, tell us a little bit more about what happened in the men's race.
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure. And one of the things I think the men also learned and it sounds like podium racing kind of had the strategy that worked best to start the race on the swim, they they took a different tactic based on the current in the tides and I'll tell you firsthand, there was a ton of current in tides.
Speaker 4:They had more of a high tide, we were at more of a low tide, but you could tell the currents playing effect. So they actually went outside and let the currents naturally pull them in to where they needed to be and didn't have to fight it. So that's why podium got the lead right out of the water in the first in the women's race. So I think that kind of trickled down to some of the other managers for the men's race and the guys kind of saw that and figured it out. Um, but man to the women's race was super fast. But even the ladies were like changing and getting back out to watch these guys race, because it is insane how fast they're going. And we had our, our, our normal leaders right out of the water. I was, uh, matt hauser. I mean unbelievable, he's huge, by the way that, that is a big boy.
Speaker 2:And you surprisingly.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he wanted to go swim, only he would um but yeah, matt hauser had a great day for sure, for sure.
Speaker 4:and I mean these guys have all done this too. They were. I mean there's there's a few newbies to the super tribe format and you can see that, uh, stars and stripes, tim, tim hellwig was first timer and, hey, he finished fourth overall and you wonder how he's going to go through the rest of the series if he's doing that well in his first ever um on the pacing of the whole thing. So, but what, what an awesome race. And it was really, uh, the same guys the whole way, the the same swimmers up front. And then it was Hayden pulling everyone on the bike. It'd take a few minutes to get caught up and then he was pulling, and pulling, and pulling and every once in a while somebody else would take the lead, including the Stars and Stripes guys. I think the Stars and Stripes guys all had like the top three bike splits, but a lot of it was catching up. But Seth Ryder had a crazy first spike and he led the group coming into transition. So he got the short shoot there for them by having that. So really cool to see that.
Speaker 4:But the race played out the way we kind of expected it to play out and swim, bike run, swim, bike run. And then we got to that final bike and Alex, he was still hanging around with everyone on the bike, so you can't lose them on the bike. You know you're in for a run and a sprint finish and sure enough, just like Paris, aiden went out in front on that final leg and Alex reeled him in with 250, 300 meters to go and it's on the big screen. The crowd's going crazy and they round the corner and and he had them by about 10 feet when they got to the finish shoot. And next thing you know he's crossing his arms and Hayden's throwing his hands up and then Hayden's like why did I have to pull everyone on the bike?
Speaker 4:And I've got to stop getting these silver medals. I've had too many of them and it's just. It's a great theatrical performance and the guys that need to show up showed up and it was just really cool to see and then all of them taking pictures and selfies with everyone like five minutes after they finished a race and still bringing their heart rates down and it's a really really neat experience, like I said before. But what a race for Alex. He just keeps going and I think on the super tri pole I actually picked him to win Boston and Hayden to win Chicago. So I'm 50% of the way.
Speaker 2:There we go. Yeah, definitely, and it was interesting. So it ended up being E, hellweg and Connix that got those short shoots. But I could see why Hayden was frustrated in there. Like there were a couple places where it could have gone the other way. They almost had E dropped on the bike at one point but no one was working together and Hayden was just kind of pulling everyone along. It's like, okay, you don't expect Vincent and Louis to do too much because they're on the same team there. But a couple times he was just getting frustrated. No one would pull through, no one would come through. And then, yeah, that last run he went off the front but he had that short shoot. So Hayden had to catch up to him again, burn a few more matches and make it to that finish line. So he's definitely going to be fired up for Chicago and I think the Olympic distance okay, we kind of know Alex has it, but Supertri, that's where it can go back and forth a little bit more. So that makes it a little bit more exciting.
Speaker 2:And I don't know about you guys, but when I saw Alex doing the crossed arms across the finish line, I was like what is going on there? But turns out had to have one of my British friends explain it to me. There it's a football soccer kind of deal. There's this one player that he's ice cold in there. He crosses his arms and I bet he probably knew this already but crosses his arms just to say like just cool, composed ice cold and I think that's what Hayden was reacting to. He's like what is this guy doing?
Speaker 2:I know a lot of us on social media was exploding with it for a while too, Like what is happening. What did you guys think when you saw that?
Speaker 3:no, I thought it was great. I I think those two are going to have a blast in the next couple years racing uh together. Uh, but no, I loved it. I love finish line celebrations because it used to be well lately. We, we were getting used to crossing the finish line and then throwing up, but it was nice to see something different for a change. So, yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 4:Much better, I agree. I mean we talk about. I mean we're so focused on our training and all this in triathlon and it's always refreshing to see the personalities come out on the race course and and to have that being played like. That's what super try is going to be building its brand off of, and there's going to be more of that. It's like the nfl brought back celebrations. Well, super try needs to be the celebration of triathlon and that's what they want to be. So there's, I think you're going to see more and more of, and they're probably going to come up with their signature moves and all this stuff. It might start a whole kick. That's what I think.
Speaker 4:But it was interesting. The other one, vasco, had a tough day and it came to find out Vasco had been battling E coli since Paris, so you could definitely see who was out of form or weren't ready for it based on their previous trainings, and I think even chase mcqueen said he'd been battling a stomach bug too. So, um, we'll see who bounces back in chicago. I think that week in between it will be a huge factor. Um, I know a lot of them are still here in boston today and are probably leaving either tonight or tomorrow to go to chicago.
Speaker 4:So really looking forward to the entire series and season um, because it's it's all gonna come down to neil. But uh, it's very close at the top already. Uh, in terms of the team performances, um, we've got podium racing at the top by one point over crown racing and brownlee eight points back of crown um, and then the stars and stripes who, who got a bunch of points um from the the individual stuff, but not so much the the finish individuals. So they are back at 46 points. So, uh, a lot of work to do there, but I think they'll they'll have a decent season.
Speaker 2:But the top three are the three we expected and we'll see how those orders mix and match throughout the the year yeah, and just to close it out here, the uh, the top five in the men's race ended up being alexi hayden wilde during connexion third, tim hollig in fourth, which is an impressive first attempt at super cry, and vincent louis in fifth again another one where we were just so used to seeing him absolutely dominate this distance. So it's great to see that he's back, he's healthy and here's to see after super try if he starts going long or what he decides to do, because it definitely sounds like he's done with, um, yeah, french olympic distance racing for the team there. And then on the women's side, the all-top five was Jeanne Laherre in first, georgia Taylor-Brown in second, tate Waugh in third, taylor Spivey in fourth and.
Speaker 2:Leonie Perriot in fifth Lots of action next weekend. Can't wait to see how it changes up. If I have one thing that I'm hoping it's still good, I miss that they're not switching up the formats. That really just threw a spanner in how the races actually went down. Just having different formats, different orders, changing it up. Um definitely saw a difference in which athletes came out on top, but it'll be interesting to see how this plays out with the same format at every race. I'm just hoping we don't see a couple people who are going to just perform because they know that this is well in the format. So we'll see how that shakes out.
Speaker 4:Yeah absolutely One. Last kudos to John Reed, who was the only alternate that was brought in to replace Leo Berger um, who's still battling, but uh, john reed finished ninth place and he, like, was called that week and said you got to show up at finn race. So kudos to him. Have a good day definitely.
Speaker 2:Well, let's get into the fun stuff. Josh, we'll go back to you with uh, you kind of teased it out here what was your social media post of the week?
Speaker 4:Yeah. So again, I like to point out sites that maybe we haven't pointed out and and Jenna often references, fetty often references triathloninsights on Instagram and they've got some really cool information. But this one stuck out to me, as it does sometimes, with these crazy bike splits or run splits. Christian H, with these crazy bike splits or run splits, uh, christian hogengog's bike splits. So 175 kilometers in three hours 57 minutes and nine seconds insane, um, normalized power, 321 watts over four. Uh, he, he had a 20 minute FTP inside of there of 353 watts over 112 miles. I mean, it's just insane, With an average heart rate of only 146 beats per minute. Jeez, just crazy. And, by the way, he crashed and got up and still continued to put up numbers.
Speaker 1:So yeah, check out triathloninsights.
Speaker 4:It's actually Mr On his social media page too, as a collaborator there. But yeah, crazy, crazy numbers. And to still stay away from Christian and come into T1 first, I mean, put himself in the mix to win it.
Speaker 3:It would be interesting to see how heavy he is, because I know he's a big guy. I think he's like 6'2", 6'3", so maybe he's like, I don't know, 77, 80 kgs, 77, 80 kgs. So that will put him at around a four watts per kilo, uh, for the whole, for the whole bike leg, and that's just to put it into perspective. Really good age groupers on world championships on 70.3, that's what. That's what they push four watts per kilo on the bike. So to push that over the course of an ironman and then run the way that he did, uh, just goes to show how these guys are in a completely different level absolutely just crazy impressive.
Speaker 2:Well, let's jump into what the after the week. It's a sad one this time, but a chance to look back at her career. Daniella reef has announced that she's going to be retiring a little bit earlier than telling. It sounds like there was an injury that has been sticking around with some pain and they tried everything they could to try to fix it up so that she'd go and her career at the world championships in nice. But her body told her that it was time to rest instead.
Speaker 2:And you know what? She had such an impact on the sport, just raising the level of racing for women within a incredible multiple world champion. She raced at the olympics but she really came into form when she did hit that and just so. I know she's inspired so many in there and kudos for her for stepping off when her body just wasn't holding up to it. She'll go out not quite with the bang she was hoping, but it's always better to see them go out on their own terms instead of kind of fading away with not great results after a while. So very impressive. She will be missed in there and I know she really had such a drastic impact on the sport. What do you guys think about the news?
Speaker 3:oh man, I was. I was a bit sad to to read her post because, uh, I think arguably dan Daniela is probably the greatest long course triathlete period, male or female. The consistency that she showed throughout the years is amazing. She always treated the sport with respect and she was a true champion. So I was a bit gutted because I really wanted her to see in Kona one more time to see if she could pull off one more championship.
Speaker 3:But yeah, like you said, jenna, health comes first and if she is going out on her own terms and the way she, well, of course it's not the way she wanted it to go, but, um, it's not because an emergency or anything. She is being smart just the way she has been throughout her whole career. So it's. It's a bit sad because we're starting to see a lot of people, um, leaving the sport because you know age and stuff like that. But yeah, just grateful that I got to see the GOAT a long time and, yeah, congratulations, I guess, on a great career.
Speaker 3:And I remember being a big Yankees fan when Derek Jeter retired. They asked him what does it feel to retire? And he said well, it's a bit like going to your own funeral, for for a long time, because everybody's saying sorry and how great you are. So it must feel a bit odd right now for daniela getting a lot of messages of you're the best, uh. But uh, yeah, just kudos to her and uh, hopefully we can have her on the pod one time to talk about her career.
Speaker 4:Is that a challenge for me? To go get Daniela on the podcast? Yes, thank you for your marching orders. It was definitely shocking news. I think we all knew she had been battling but, like everything else in her career, we thought she'd overcome it and get back out there and challenge for the win at Nice. And it's just not to be so. It is very unfortunate to see it end this way.
Speaker 4:She had a pretty good day in Miami and she looked like she was fit and ready to go, but this thing just wouldn't go away and she went through every possible treatment plan to get back. But I think she made the right decision and I can't see her leaving the sport completely anyways, and we'll probably have the female version of Jan Frodeno on the broadcasting side or coverage side. I think she'll be a big part of the sport. That's the way I feel. Um, I don't know what her plans are, but I think it's something that's ingrained in her and, uh, she'll probably take some good holiday and, uh, figure out what she wants to do next. But I would imagine we're going to be hearing and seeing from her for a while to go and in the world, yeah, absolutely well, let's change direction again.
Speaker 2:We'll do a quick rundown of the next race coming up in the ironman pro series. You guys have noticed we're covering a few less races um in the reviews and the uh predictions, just because there's so much racing these days. We're dialing in a little bit more on the Ironman Pro Series, t100, wtcs and Supertri. So definitely not lacking either way. But this weekend we have Ironman 70.3 Talon in Estonia and let's make some predictions here. So I'll read out some of the top names we've got on the women's side and we can go around. We've got Maya Stage-Nielsen, kevin Matthews, alice Visser, tamara Jewett, lauren Brandon, leslie Smith, kate Cron, bryce Beck, carolyn Pohl those are some of the tough ones there. Pamela Olveria who do you think? Fede? Who do you think has it this weekend on the women's side? Jump in Josh jump in, josh.
Speaker 4:Who do you think has it this weekend? On the women's side? I'll go first. Thanks, fed. Um, I actually might leave his pick on the table. Anyways, I I think the pick across the board is cat matthews, that Based on the season that Kat has had. But I don't know how Fenella is and if she's actually starting or not. I would love to see her have a great race. My money is going to be on Elsvisser yet again. I think she's been training like crazy. She's actually taken a break for the first time this year and we all know how well she was going before and let's see what she could do at the 70.3 distance again after a little bit of a break and the pro series really being her focus. So, um, my pick is l's, because I'm gonna leave cat one of you guys sounds good, but who do you think's got it?
Speaker 3:yeah, I just wanted Josh to pick first because you know I'm a gentleman and I'm letting him pick first. I had a bit of a connection issue but I'm going to go with. It's interesting because I know Kat is training for Worlds but she's always a safe bet. But I'm gonna go with my stage nielsen actually.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, definitely good shout there. She's been actually out there, man. Yeah, it's tough, kat matthews, from ironman to t100, to everything, she just seems to get the job done. Um, fourth out of her boards and iron man, uh, triathlon athlete. But she's been doing some really good results at t100. Just racing a ton like it is, man, seriously impressive. So she's either gonna have a great day or an average day, but I'll go with that because you just can't not.
Speaker 1:Well, let's go on to the men's side, I've got a great one for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, I'll take it. On the men's side, we've got Peter Heimrich, robert Callan, joe Skipper, quentin Chablon, mike Phillips, anthony Costas, cam Wirth he's on every start list. So who knows? Eric Arnauts, justus Nishle Actually, you know what's funny? It almost seems a little more talk-heavy in the women's race than the men's race, which we don't often see too much in here, which is great to see. But since we started with you before, Josh, let's go. Who do you think has it on the men's pro set?
Speaker 4:And there's another name on that list too Jelly is doing this race as well. Oh, yeah, Wow. And I know Dubrick has not been completely healthy. He just started running at the levels he wants to run again recently. I don't know if he's ready, but we're going to see how he can go on the bike with the new fit and everything. Man, I'm going to go with Joe Geinz. Let's go with the name that's down the list a little bit. We know when he shows up fit he's ready to go.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:How about you, fed Fedor? Who do you got here? Yeah, josh took my pick. I mean, I don't see anybody with the wrong pedigree that Yelly has. If, if they come together, uh, from the back to the run, I think Yelly is gonna to take it, but I'm going to make. I'm going to go ahead and pick Mr Bart Arnott for the win Underdog. I think he's going to get away on the bike and then he's going to hold off Yelly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like it. Definitely can see it there. It's funny we're kind of going away from the top of the list here a little bit more. I'm going to go with Mike Phillips see what he can do out there, see how things are going with him, and that will start to round out a lot of points in this Ironman Pro Series. We're really starting to see it come together. But I think there's going to be a ton of movement once we start into the World Championships.
Speaker 2:Just because there are so many more points through Kona and then 70.3 Worlds, we're not going to know who's taking this thing until December, which is crazy since we've already had so much racing already. We're done with the Ironmans outside of the World Championships for points here. So it's down to World Championship results and 70.3s. Right now at the top of the rankings we we got Matt Hansen at 16,730 points, jackson Longy on the Canadian side, 12,839. Patrick Lange moved up to third with his recent result with 12,527.
Speaker 2:Now, not everyone has three Ironmans and that's definitely what's holding Matt Hansen up at the top of the list. Just having already done three Ironmans, I think we are going to see a ton of movement once we get into these World Championship Series-type races. On the women's side, we've got Jackie Herring topping it with 14,487. Daniela Lewis in second and Alice Alberts in third. Again, some of the top names in there. We're not seeing the names we expected at the top, like a Fenella Langridge or a Kat Matthews and stuff, but things are going to shake up. What do you think we're going to see once those world championships start rolling around?
Speaker 4:So we could talk math on this and possibilities for another hour if we wanted to, because it's crazy the math that you can do on this. But one of the things, because Matt Hanson already has three and he is going to Kona, you really kind of have to pull one of the three that he already has away.
Speaker 4:So now he's back down in that 12,000 range. He gets a little bit more points from Texas. Patrick gets 5,000 from Texas. So they're still around the same. It comes down to because I think I did the math on this earlier and I listened to George Hinojous as well it comes down to Patrick needs to beat Hansen by about six minutes in Kona and that'll probably work out math wise between the two of them. Now the problem becomes patrick's not qualified for topa, so he doesn't have an opportunity to do a 70.3 world whereas hansen does, and hansen's already got two, two wins.
Speaker 4:But if he does well in 70.3 worlds, we all know that can replace one of his, his um 70.3 numbers too.
Speaker 2:So it is going to come down to topo um, but it's also going to be a little bit more drawn out and and we'll have a clearer picture after kona yeah, and let's think with matt hansen it's really showing just that consistency at ironman distance makes a difference because he hasn't done anything crazy right like in ironman, his best result was sixth in lake classic. He won 70.3 in chattanooga, but it's not like he's winning everything and that's making the difference. It really just shows if he can be consistent across the board. But yeah, I think we're gonna start to see a bunch of those blown out of the water once we get those world championships going on. Talk about Patrick Lang. He'll just have to kind of sit by after Kona and cross his fingers and toes. Matt Hansen doesn't have a blinder of a day and go win the 70.3 world champs.
Speaker 4:I can picture Patrick sitting there with a Matt Hansen voodoo doll or something.
Speaker 2:We need a hot seat camera, like they do at the Tour de France. Time trials have the hot seat camera for the run. It would be fun to watch.
Speaker 4:That's cool.
Speaker 2:Well, we got lots of racing ahead here.
Speaker 4:Yeah well, we got lots of racing ahead here on the woman's side.
Speaker 4:It's a it's it's open, right, I think niece is going to be a huge play, but a lot of them have only done two iron mans where matt's kind of replacing one that he's already done. So I think the woman's field is wide open and cat's going to be a huge player in that. Alice is going to be a huge player in that. I Alice is going to be a huge player in that. I mean anyone up top I think is going to be in that mix some 70.3 worlds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's a much smaller gap kind of among that top five as well. So it is all still to play for. Just mind boy that we started this so early. All the Ironmans are done, but it's not till December that things will be decided and done up. That is crazy. Well, we got lots of fundraising ahead to go and we will be back next week breaking down Super Try. I should be on site and try to get some good insights. Go follow us on another Travelon podcast on Instagram. I'll try to get some behind the scenes pictures and videos and all of that on set too, so you can feel like you're a part of the action. Maybe you'll get the same FOMO I did watching Josh's feed and have to come out to the next Supertrial event soon. We'll be back. Thank you guys for joining me. As always, we'll see you next week.
Speaker 4:Have a safe trip home and enjoy Chicago.
Speaker 3:Yeah, enjoy it, see you guys.
