Episode 61: Ultimate Triathlon Bundle Giveaway details! Interview with Becca Pizzi who conquered the Seven Marathons on Seven Continents in Seven Days...twice!

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Ever wondered what it takes to run seven marathons on seven continents in seven days? Meet Becca Peasy, our extraordinary guest, who has not only done this once but twice! Her remarkable story will leave you inspired and awestruck as she shares her journey, the challenges she's faced, and the incredible mental and physical resilience required to achieve such feats. Discover how Becca's accomplishments have become a beacon of inspiration for the entire endurance and triathlon community. 

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Then we run down Ironman 70.3 Zell am See, highlighting recent standout performances from athletes like Carolyn Pohle and
Mika Noodt. We'll discuss the unpredictable nature of the 70.3 World Championships and the scheduling conflicts posed by the T100 series in Ibiza. Our conversation dives into the drama and excitement surrounding these high-stakes events, drawing parallels to the scenic beauty of Nice and celebrating the amazing efforts of our featured athletes.

Chapters

• 0:00 Triathlon Podcast
• 12:22 Post-Race Analysis and World Championships Preview
• 20:07 Endurance Sports Journey With Becca Peasy
• 29:13 Pushing Limits
• 35:52 Triathlon Journey
• 44:01 Endurance Runner's Achievements and Challenges
• 52:34 Triathlon Training and Inspiration

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Welcome to another triathlon podcast, the podcast that brings the electrifying world of triathlons right into your headphones. Journey into captivating conversations, share the excitement of race recaps, enjoy the humor only a triathlete would understand, and join us as we debunk myths and bring you the bare, thrilling truths of the triathlon world. Myths and bring you the bare, thrilling truths of the triathlon world. So feel your heart pound, breathe in anticipation and get ready to dive into the world of triathlon. This is another triathlon podcast.

Speaker 2: 0:36

Enjoy the ride, as always. Welcome to another triathlon podcast brought to you by Mana Apparel. Now, before we get into all of the triathlon action and fun and everything else. Now, before we get into all of the triathlon action and fun and everything else, if you are a fan or do the sport in any kind of way, shape or form, you definitely have to head over to our sponsor, mana Apparel. They're doing a massive giveaway of over $4, just all of the incredible sponsors of the team are over there doing this epic giveaway to celebrate that the 2025 Team Mana applications are now open.

Speaker 2: 1:12

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Speaker 3: 1:56

Doing great. My legs are getting tired because I think we were just talking off air. I just realized I've already done 34 miles this month and it's the third of september, so uh, the miles are getting up there. I had an awesome long run of 18 and a half miles on sunday which was a big test and kind of check of where I'm at, and I had five by 15 minute race pace goal efforts within that and was able to pretty much hit them all and come out of it feeling pretty good.

Speaker 3: 2:30

A little tightness in the leg, but uh, stretch that out and just keep going. So it's uh, still swimming, still biking, at least once or twice a week and uh, staying healthy as much as possible and a lot of relaxing, a lot of resting when I need to rest. It's a yin and yang factor. Right now. The rest periods are becoming more and more important. The miles build up right now before we start tapering.

Speaker 3: 2:55

But I feel very good and we talked a little bit about it in our interview I'm coming up later with Becca Peasy but my training's been going really well and I'm really, really getting excited for chicago. Actually, when I finished that run I was like can chicago be in like two weeks. I just need a week to taper. So I feel like I'm ready to go. I don't want to bubble up for another five and a half weeks, but, um, it was just one of those good days, um, and I did it early in the morning, but it was still hot. Humidity was up. So even if we have that bad weather on race day, I'm ready for it.

Speaker 2: 3:33

That is epic, yeah, and, like you mentioned, we're going to have Becca Peasy on. She has done some pretty epic things in the world of running, from running on all 50 states to something that definitely caught my attention the seven marathons and seven continents in seven days, which sounds absolutely epic, and she did that twice. So stay tuned to hear more about her story, because I know I've got me fired up for sure.

Speaker 3: 3:57

Yeah, she's a local legend here in Boston, but on top of that, more people in the endurance world and triathlon world need to know her story too, because she's totally inspirational. She's raised a ton of money, she's a great coach herself and you'll enjoy the interview for sure.

Speaker 2: 4:14

Yeah, absolutely. And I feel like a slacker talking to you guys here because after two weeks off of training, just like literally zero exercise for two weeks, just to get a mental and physical break and kind of hope this hip issue that has been popping up during races goes away. I did my first strength training session back, which I absolutely love, and have that achy sore like feeling. That is so satisfying. But I did my first run back today. It feels like I've never run before in my life. It is so funny how you lose that feel for it.

Speaker 2: 4:52

It's a necessary part of training to take that downtime, unload a bit of fatigue and form. That's part of the reason that I credit I've been able to stay in the sport so long as kind of realizing when it's time to shut it down for a little bit. But that road back, those first few runs back, they are just brutal. Luckily I have learned over the years it does get better, it does come back. But at the moment just trying to get rolling again to get the body moving and kind of figure out what I want to do for my next goal kind of figure out what I want to do for my next goal.

Speaker 3: 5:24

Yeah, I'm sure you'll figure it all back out. Your run has always been an A part of your game, so your tough day was probably better than most, as usual. But I do feel for you and I'm actually we talked about this off air too. I'll probably be coming up on my break post Chicago a little bit and things will die down and before we build back into 70.3 season the next year, which I'm looking to go sub five in finally. But yeah, I can feel that need for that week or so off or slowly take some downtime.

Speaker 2: 6:03

Yeah, absolutely, Especially after something like a marathon. I find marathons beat you up even more than like an Ironman, just because the pounding of the faster running out there. I have never been so sore as I was after my first marathon in there. That is just. It's harder on your body to go faster with the running. You're already so fatigued from the swim, the bike and an Ironman that you're not going that fast relatively. So it almost seems a little bit easier afterwards.

Speaker 3: 6:30

It's that borderline threshold pace that is going to really put a tax on you.

Speaker 2: 6:35

Yeah, absolutely. Well, there are a few other people who are exercising this weekend a bit faster than we were, with some of the pro racing going on. First let's jump into a little bit. We'll do a bit of an overview on the Paralympics. We had the Paris Paralympics going on right now and we had the triathlon happening which, shockingly, the swim was a bit of an issue and actually, josh, you were just telling me I hadn't heard that that the athletes were able to get in for a test swim. Ultimately, a couple of the races were delayed by a day for the water quality, but it sounds like a few people ended up getting sick on the test swim.

Speaker 3: 7:14

Yeah, so they were able to do their recon swim, which we know is important in this location, with the downriver swim and then having to come back upstream um to to finish. But it does sound like the the americans lost that I know of from the broadcast. Uh, they lost one of their elite female para athletes who was the favorite um. She wasn't able to go because she was sick. The one of the guides for one of the visually impaired um riders to be subbed out at the last minute.

Speaker 2: 7:46

And.

Speaker 3: 7:46

I mean, just think about that. You've been working together with this one guide for so long and the trust factor and the cadence and everything that you've got together is now broken. And you've got a new partner the day of the race and I felt bad for Kuhn. I mean, he's a podium contender or top five, top six guy and had a tough race in ninth um whether it was the guide or not. But um, you feel for the athlete having to have that switch out and it sounds like a lot of this was because of the, the water quality.

Speaker 3: 8:18

Um owen cravens, the other visually impaired athlete who, ben hoffman, is the guide for um. Obviously, in the ironman world and triathlon world we all know ben and um. What a cool thing he's doing at the end of his career to take on owen um and apparently owen was sick and not feeling well leading up into the race and and was in the lead coming off the bike right around there um first or second coming off the bike and I think they had a? Um a helmet issue and got a 10 second penalty for either oh no, hitting on the bike, touching the bike without having the helmet strapped on.

Speaker 3: 8:51

Um coming out of t1. So, um, they lost 10 seconds there on the second lap of the run and went from second place to fourth and weren't able to make it all the time, so finished in fourth just off the podium, but he's 21. And then you look at somebody like Chris Hammer, who's in his fourth Paralympics, coming off of back-to-back fourth-place finishes himself and then just took gold and completely dedicated himself, changed things up and finishes with a gold medal around his neck because he competed in the world of the non-enabled or disabled athletes and he competed in Oceanside as a pro. He trains with pros who are able-bodied, so it really took him to the next level, which was really really cool to see.

Speaker 2: 9:44

That was very cool. Yeah, if you haven't go watch the races um, we won't run through all the results because there are a number of different categories and setups there but definitely go watch it. It's just so inspiring to see what people overcome to still pursue the love of sport and it's something that is, you know, added to their lives and just incredible to see them step up in the face of these challenges and just performing at such an incredible level. You have no excuses If you're not getting out there and doing stuff or chasing your dreams or goals. You've got zero excuses, especially watching after. These men and women just do some incredibly inspiring stuff out there at the Paralympics. It's very cool to watch and see.

Speaker 3: 10:24

Yeah, and the French, I mean, and the way the day goes too. So they they ended up postponing the first day, moved it from september 1st to september 2nd, and the then it starts with like the, the most disabled through the least disabled is kind of how the day goes.

Speaker 3: 10:41

And they do a wave of four in the morning, um, which are most of them are going to be using, uh, wheelchairs and stuff instead of bikes, and then you've got your upright athletes who are able to to run, whether they're with prosthetics or not. But that's kind of the afternoon program, um, and just crazy inspiring getting carried out of the water to to then getting carried out of the water to be put into something, then taken up to your T1 and get in a wheelchair or get on a bike Totally unbelievable. I think it was really cool to see the Americans came away with eight medals overall and a bunch of golds three golds, I think. Grace Norman, who's now won gold, silver gold in the last three Paralympics, and her run you wouldn't even know she was wearing a prosthetic if you couldn't see it Like her run is just unbelievable.

Speaker 2: 11:35

Oh, incredible, oh, so good to see. Yeah, I mean, we're going to have to watch that one again. It's just, yeah amazing to see what people overcome to actually chase their goals and be successful in it. But we also had some 70.3 racing going on too, another one that will be added towards the Ironman Pro Series. We had Ironman 70.3 and Zal MC, and it sounds like there were a couple dominating performances. Josh, we don't have Bet A here tonight. Do you want to let us know, kind of what happened there?

Speaker 3: 12:06

Yeah. So A go watch this race or check it out and put it on your list because the scenery is unreal. A lot of the pros who have done this race for the first time this year we're talking about like we'll be back. I'm doing this again and again and again. It's just it's like a mini Nice almost, with the climbs and the background and the lake and it's just absolutely gorgeous on top of it being an epic race, and we had a lot of people on back-to-back weeks 70.3 last week.

Speaker 3: 12:38

So Carolyn Pohl was in the field, gellie Geens in the men's field and Els Visser was in the women's field. So a lot of miles in the the last week or so. And carolyn pole, who took it to cat matthews last week, ran from the gun to the tape again. Um, fastest swim. She had a crazy fast bike and was still in the lead, coming out onto the run and then held on for the win and won by over a minute and a half again. So back-to-back weeks for Carolyn. That's got to put her name at the top of the list, going into Taupo for sure, and if she can have another big block going through the rest of the year, this is the last 70.3 Pro Series race, so now all we've got is the World Championships coming up. So it was a big race for a lot of people to get in, and following Carolyn Poole is Grace Deck, who's had a really good year. She had a crazy fast run of 121. On that course, is is insanely fast.

Speaker 3: 13:47

Um, laura madsen, ellie saltos and fourth and els visser and fifth, with another top five performance coming off. What she probably thought wasn't a great week the week before. So it'll be interesting to see what els can do. And laura madsen and grace going to Nice um, they have. They don't have much time to get ready, as we'll hear in our interview. It's like 18 days away, um, so coming up on that. But, uh, really really good race for a lot of these women, and a lot of them had raced a lot recently, so awesome to see. And then we had, uh, thor, or our blonde magician in the men's field who has not been racing a lot so much together like he has been doing. When he's in form and fit. You're not catching people on the bike, you're not catching people on the run. He's right there in front and coming out of the water in the lead group with a 24-43 swim. And then he throws down a 2.0-2 bike on a supremely hilly course like four minutes faster than the next guy.

Speaker 2: 15:12

He set a bike course record there too, in the process. That is crazy.

Speaker 3: 15:15

By far. Yeah, I mean slammed the bike course record and we've seen a lot of people go under two hours, but 202 on this course is insane. And then to run a 1.1409 off of it, he won by just over five minutes and just never really let off the gas. And a huge comeback for Mika Newt there, and good to see him fit and in form, because he's going to be a force to be reckoned with another young one, deli genes. Um, back-to-back weeks for for him as well, coming off the olympics as well, so not much downtime for him. Finishing in second, gregory payette, from luxembourg, and third, tom hoob, and then jan strotman, uh, rounding out the top five. So, um, some names that we know, some names that are trying to make a name for themselves in 70.3 and, uh, it definitely got me interested in doing zelensky, that's for sure you know and I, what I love about this year is things have been we're getting a lot more like top level racing as we go and stuff.

Speaker 2: 16:19

But things are still spread out enough that, going into 70.3 worlds, I have no idea like no idea who is going to be at the top of the rankings there, because we've seen some of the top names battling against each other in the T100 and a couple of these 70.3 races, but we haven't had that crossover where everyone is in one place at this middle distance, whether it is 70.3 or T100. So it is going to be so fun to see what happens in Taupo, given that when it's been such a long season, we don't know how people are going to recover from these series of series of races and who's going to be in form in that. But we've just seen so many names coming to the top that we've never seen before and, yeah, I have no idea and I love it.

Speaker 3: 17:03

That makes it so much more exciting than someone just dominating I wouldn't be surprised if it's somebody who's not in the t100 or who is not at the top of the pro series right now. That takes the 70.3 championship in taupo on both the male and female side, because there's a big break for some of these people that aren't going to be doing any t100s and they're not going to be in Nice or in Kona and their focus is going to be 70.3 top and it's hard to compete against somebody who's been solely focused on one race and you've been bouncing around the world trying to fulfill your obligations with the T100. And then also climb some mountains in Nice or go to Kona and sweat it out. But there's going to be a handful of people that are going to be in contention just because Taupo's their race, their A race.

Speaker 2: 17:53

Yeah, absolutely, and we'll definitely. We'll dive more into the predictions for the women's Ironman World Championships probably in the next couple of weeks here, but, like I said, it's coming up crazy fast. It's already September 3rd. The racing what is the 22nd? So it's man, it is right around the corner. What I found interesting, though, was T100 announced their start list for Ibiza, which is like a week after the 70.3 World Championships. I'm seriously doubting some of these athletes showing up, or that they're going to have everyone showing up there. Like, there is a lot of crossover there from women doing the ironman world championships and knees to being on that obese list a week later. What do you think?

Speaker 3: 18:33

yeah, it's so, you've got. You definitely got the factor. You also got way high is that same weekend too, so it's like all all, right, they're a wild card or they're on the start list. They're also a WTCS athlete, so how's that going to work? There's definitely going to be some names dropping out of that list, would be my guess. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:55

It seems surprising that they put out so early that feels early, when usually we're waiting kind of to the last minute to even hear courses, never mind start list Usually we're waiting kind of to the last minute to even hear courses, nevermind Starless.

Speaker 3: 19:08

So I think I and it might've been Mark Matthews or somebody on ProChai News talk about the fact that the names have to be out in a certain you have to say no if you're not going in a certain timeframe, a month out, or something like that. So I think that's why we are seeing that t100 list come out now. Um, they're sharing it. We'll see if anything changes. I mean, 70.3 after a world championship is a little different than a 70.3 after an iron man that you, you, yeah, just showed up at I don't know um I have a feeling there'll be a few just participating a little bit more than anything.

Speaker 3: 19:47

So I mean somebody like Paula Finley walk right into Ibiza and be like all right, I got this one, let's go.

Speaker 2: 19:52

You guys have all done a hard man. I'm fresh.

Speaker 3: 19:55

I'm married. I'm good. You guys go climb the hills, I'll be back and waiting for you in. Ibiza.

Speaker 2: 20:02

I'll be going by you in Ibiza afterwards feeling fresh.

Speaker 3: 20:07

It'll be interesting to see who actually toes the line for both sides that day too, because, like you said, it's also in the middle of the Kona block for a lot of people Well, yeah, it's only what, like three weeks ahead of Kona or something like that, so it's really and then Vegas is even closer.

Speaker 2: 20:23

Yeah, true, and they just announced the Vegas course as well for people to get an idea of what that will look like. It looks like they're pushing hard for age groupers to come out to a lot of these events too, so be curious to see how that all goes down. We got a little bit of a break in the race. It feels like the last little while there's been so much going on We've been spoiled for races and events and just everything to follow. And, yeah, until 70 point, or not 70.3 ironman world championships in nice, which still bugs me that they're separate for at least the pros. But we'll have that coming up fast. Well, pretty soon it's gonna be, yeah, next couple weeks here. But we have have a lot of things going on in the triathlon world with social media. It seems like everyone out there is getting either going quiet on social media because they're in the depths of the last building block or have some time between events, so they're on there constantly. But what have you seen on the social media world, josh?

Speaker 3: 21:22

Another tough week. Like what, do we not? We've already talked about jonas deakman, but go check that out. Um, he's about to finish his 120th, uh straight day of doing an iron man on the challenge rock course, so that's gonna happen this week. After this episode drops, it'll probably be on day 118 or 119, so check that out again. Craziness, um. And then there was another crazy story, uh, over in europe, this week too. I don't know if you saw, but uh, pain caves can be dangerous if you uh don't have things constantly checked in. Uh, electricity. But um, sam laylow lost, uh, his whole pancake down.

Speaker 2: 22:04

No way, I didn't see that at all.

Speaker 3: 22:06

So he lost a lot of his motorbikes, oh no, and a lot of smoke damage to some of his road bikes and lost all of his trainers and nobody was injured and that's the big story coming out of it and we all have tough things to go through and that's kind of his message. This is my blip and a lesson learned and things like that. But it sounds like his Kona block's going well. But, yeah, tough day in the Lalo family because that pain cave is on every episode that he puts out on YouTube and it's a big part of his life up there in the mountains. But yeah, tough to see. But yeah, go give him some support on social media that's crazy.

Speaker 2: 22:47

I hadn't seen that. I'll have to go take a look because, oh man, I know my pain cave is like a second home. I can't imagine that happening there. But glad to hear that everyone's okay and, um, that's the important thing. For sure, everything else can be rebuilt. As long as you're healthy and alive, it's kind of key.

Speaker 2: 23:04

Absolutely well, we'll jump over to what the f of the week and I'm stepping away from triathlon for a second here because I was just watching this this morning we have the vuelta is going on right now and unfortunately today welton art got taken out of the race after crashing twice on today's stage. Uh, he decided to call it and it is just such a bummer to see because that guy just he can do almost anything in these grand tours and when he's firing on all cylinders he's so fun to watch and change up the race dynamics. So it is really sad to see him out of the welter. Just, you know he's been crashing a lot this year but he just seems to go for it at the same time. It just you feel for him because it hasn't been his year after we've seen somewhere he's been pretty epic and at the front and really changing the dynamics constantly.

Speaker 3: 24:00

Yeah, he just needs to find a way to be epic and stay upright at the same time, because it's like he's having some epic days but then the days that he's not right, it's like total bad and crash and I mean he had to pull out of the Tour. He had to pull out of Vuelta now.

Speaker 3: 24:16

So tough back to back for him and he had some great stages and some great rides in this race too, and it was tough to say it didn't even look good either it's almost like the cast is being, or the the curse is being passed on with.

Speaker 2: 24:30

Primos usually has the uh reputation of going down all the time he left their team and now he's uh about to take over the standings of the welter. He's still. He's got five seconds now to get over ben o'connor. But yeah well, venner just seems to have taken up that cause, unfortunately. So we hope that he heals up soon and can get back to it, because he definitely makes the races fun and interesting and he was the points leader too.

Speaker 2: 24:54

So tough, tough and he was the sprint leader, the points leader, like he was just crushing it all around. Too bad to see, but if you're not following the Vuelta, it has been absolutely crazy this year, as always, as it always seems to be, and they're going to be ending with a time trial in there which will shake things up to the last minute, but right now they're up in the mountain stages and it is fun to see some of the fireworks, some of the epic performances and, yeah, it's just a blast. I've gotten totally sucked into cycling the last few years.

Speaker 3: 25:24

Trying to see through the fog.

Speaker 2: 25:26

Man right, Don't know if you win or not or where you are in the standing, because you're not so heady or not through some of that fog. It was really great to see. Well, with that, we're going to roll into our interview here. It really was so inspiring and fun to hear. She's done some incredible things, Becca. So stay tuned, give it a listen and we will see you next week.

Speaker 3: 25:51

Hi, well, welcome here to another triathlon podcast. As we promised, we've got our amazing interview with Becca Peasy and if you don't know her, you're going to know her after this episode and you're going to want to know her and you're going to want to know more about her and hopefully we get a good amount of questions answered. But I'm fortunate enough to be good friends with Becca. She's here from the Boston area and has done over 100 marathons. I believe She'll have to correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 3: 26:18

She's done seven by seven by seven, which is seven marathons in seven days and seven continents twice by seven by seven, which is seven marathons in seven days and seven continents twice. She's now jumped into the triathlon world and you've probably seen some pictures with her and some very tall man named Zdeno in the endurance space. But blessed to have her here because she's a wealth of knowledge in endurance sports. She's a coach. She's got her own foundation giving back to kids in their endurance hopes and training. So, becca, thank you for joining us. This is awesome that you were able to come on.

Speaker 4: 26:48

Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2: 26:49

Yeah, it's great to have you on here and it sounds like you have quite the story. Just from that intro, it has me wanting to learn a little bit more. I don't know much about you going in, so I'm sure I'll have lots of questions that the audience will be wondering at the same time. But let's kind of start with what got you interested in endurance sports.

Speaker 4: 27:08

I started running at a real young age. I was just six years old. My dad took me to a local race in Belmont and I won my age group. I was the only one in my age group.

Speaker 4: 27:18

I didn't know that at the time but I was like wait a second, I got all the swag and all this really awesome stuff water bottles and I was like, wait, if I run really fast then I win things. That's kind of cool. So that's kind of how I got my start through my dad and he used to run and I remember him saying I would ride my bike and he would run. And I remember saying I was six, I don't want to ride my bike, I want to run. So he sacrificed his pace running to run with me side by side so that I could run. And those are the best memories of my life.

Speaker 3: 27:52

That's amazing, and you guys are, I mean. So when was your first kind of like big race that you remember getting ready for? Because we've all. We all did stuff as kids and trained and played sports growing up and I know the Belmont area very well, living in Watertown, belmont myself, and it's just that's what we grew up doing and breathing and doing all the time. When was the first time you actually like okay, I'm good at this and this is something I'm going to do a lot more?

Speaker 4: 28:20

When I used to run in middle school and elementary school and we'd go to gym class and I would beat the boys, you know, and it was so fun because the school would just be like I would just race them and I would beat them. And I remember loving that feeling and my grandmother used to take me to where three generations living in Belmont and she used to drive me to heartbreak Hill for the Boston marathon and I remember getting little high fives from from the runners and thinking, oh my God, this is so cool. They high five me. I feel like the, and it was like not even people winning. I just got a high five from like an average runner running by and I was like I, it just made my day. So I, I, every time there's a child, or especially a kid, holding their hand up there, I will cross the street in a marathon to go high five that child's hand because I know what that felt like. And again, I was like I cannot wait to run this race. I've watched it from like age six, seven, eight, and then, when I was 17, I was offered a Boston marathon bib because I used to run for Liberty. It was an all girls run club, liberty track club and Ken McKenna, my coach, was like, all right, I'll give you this bit, but don't get hurt. And I was like, I was so excited, like, and my parents were like, no, wait till you're out of high school. This is crazy, this I. And I said I'm doing it, I, I, I really wanted to run this race. And, um, I remember also just lying about my age, I was like, oh crap, you have to be 18. And then I looked at I got literally got my pencil out, erased it and put that I was 17. And and then I remember at the Boston marathon, taking my waiver, and they're looking at the waiver and they're looking at me, and she handed me my number and I'm like, oh my God, this is happening. So it was, and it turned out that, um, once again, like, the Belmont community just rallied for me, they put signs everywhere and I was 17, running, you know, in high school, the marathon, which isn't, you know, usually wait to a little bit older.

Speaker 4: 30:21

But crossing the finish line was like the coolest day of my life. I was like this is so cool. And I happened to beat my teacher. So he was like I'm going to school tomorrow. This is so bad. And I said well, I don't suck as a runner, it's not like you got beat by somebody that doesn't run. I'm a pretty good runner. But I only had really 12 miles of training. I didn't hit the 20't hit the 20 mile marks, I didn't you know. So I figured I have nothing in the world to lose by running the Boston marathon and giving the chance Like and that mentality kind of brought me to like when I was given an opportunity to run the seven marathons on seven continents, seven days, I was like I have a shot at making history.

Speaker 4: 31:01

An American female has never done this. I have nothing to lose. And I called my parents and they were like no, this is dangerous, like ISIS is happening right here, and you're going to be running right here, right next to I'm. Like no, I'm going for it, I don't, I don't care, I love the ultimate test of endurance and strength and everything that I have done has prepped me for for running these seven cons. I'm doing. I'm sorry I'm doing it and and I never loved your ideas growing up as a child, so this is a little bit of payback and you're gonna have to deal with it. Also, watch my child Well, because she's in second grade and I need you to really help me out, and so they didn't talk to me for a little bit, like they were like this just is a lot in your mind and your body.

Speaker 4: 31:45

I'm like, no, I'm going for it, I, I'm going to make history, I'm going to do it. So that's kind of like it, just my mentality going through. I love, I love the ultimate test of like endurance and strength and pushing, and, pushing, and pushing, and I am not afraid to fail. I'll fail on the biggest stage if, given the opportunity because I I, but I also blood, sweat and tears I put, I put the work in. I'll never, ever ever. I competed in college where we won NCAA titles. I'll never race if I'm not mentally and physically prepared. I won't do it.

Speaker 2: 32:16

That's awesome. Yeah, I love that drive and that spirit, kind of just that motivation to this looks epic and hard and brutal. Let's go Like that is the same way I'm wearing in there, and it's just fun to go after it and see what happens, see what your body's actually capable of, because so often we're capable of so much more than we actually think in there. But how did that opportunity come up to do the seven and seven?

Speaker 4: 32:40

All my running friends kept messaging me like, hey, it went on. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I know that that's. Friends kept messaging me like hey, it went on. And I'm like, oh yeah, I know that, that's cool. I'm like I've grown, I've I've lived in new England so I can run in the hot, I can run in the cold. Yeah, I'm going to give it a shot. I was like that. But the thing is is people kept like my old coach message it to me.

Speaker 4: 33:01

My college friends are like it was, it was on runner's world, it was being spread, and they were like Becca, you, you got this, you can do this. And I'm like and the second, I read like seven marathons, seven continents, seven days. I'm like, yeah, I got that, I can, I'm going to do it, you know. And so it took a year, one full year of training for it, where I would be like I would fly to Canada and because running in Antarctica was so scary, it was it's the unknown, like I've never run in anything close. You're running on a glacier, like you're running ice, and you're like but I went to EMS sports and I said I'm, I'm running a marathon and I didn't really get into it. And then they're like, oh my God, like can we be like your case study? Can you, can you try out these glasses? Can you try out these, these sneakers? And I was like, yeah, let's do it. So I actually went to Canada, montreal, in the dead of winter and ran in like negative temperatures and I and I remember saying to the front desk if I'm not back in four hours, come find me, because I'm a little scared to be out there in the because, like you don't it's, you don't it's, you don't want your, you have to keep warm, but not too warm for frostbite. And I was just really nervous, I didn't want to not finish.

Speaker 4: 34:11

The first one, antarctica was first, and I was like, if, what a loser I would be if I couldn't get through Antarctica, cause I don't like to be cold, I prefer to be hot. I actually don't, but you just get into like the mental zone of. And then I bought a sauna, like I had a sauna delivered to my house and they're like is this a residence? I'm like, yeah, I'm doing this, this like race, and I want to make sure that my sauna training is okay. So I, so I did a lot of sauna training.

Speaker 4: 34:34

I did a lot of. I was running a hundred miles per week and I was training a lot. I was working really really hard and and and had my guard up and nutrition and I was lucky enough and fortunate enough to team up with TB12. And I said, well, what do you know about running? And they're like nothing, but we know everything about the human body. We did a ton of liability, which really really helped me, um and so that they were huge I actually. So I had run this first seven, seven, seven. Tb12 was like if you'd like to run it a second time, we'll support you, we'll help you, we'll pay for it. And I was like that's a no-brainer. If it worked for Tom Brady, it will definitely work for me. So I got to meet him and run and it's been so awesome.

Speaker 2: 35:17

That is very cool.

Speaker 3: 35:28

I forgot when I invited.

Speaker 4: 35:29

Becca onto this, that the two of you were going to end up being like best of buddies, because I can see better. Like glow, she lives in calgary. She's got a sauna in her house. Like we're just. Those people were relatable, like it would be friends too.

Speaker 2: 35:37

I just I, yeah, it's different yeah, no, love that mentality though, just that go for it and get after it. See what happens nothing to lose.

Speaker 4: 35:46

And then and then I was like I'm always looking for, like, okay, that was cool, what's next? I, for the last 10 years, I read about Kona Ironman and I would literally watch it like it was a Super Bowl. I'm like, well, that runner did this and this and I would watch it and watch it. And then I was given an invitational bib and I called Dave McGillivray. I'm like I was given a bib to run Kona. He's like, yes, yes, you, you can, you got. I'm like, okay, but here's the thing I can't really swim. And he's like you're going to, you're going to learn, you're just going to. You work with her. If you know her, she's huge in the triathlon world working. She's the coach of the BU triathlon team.

Speaker 4: 36:29

So I got to go work out with the kids at the BU triathlon and they were so supportive. They were like so, so helpful and friendly. And of course, I had a ton of support from Z, who was just like you got this, you can do it, show them how strong you are. And you know it's been awesome. My family has. Just, they weren't on board at first. My parents were like it's hot in Hawaii, what are you thinking? I'm like I'm thinking their motto is anything is possible, so I'm going to go for it. I'm going to go for it. So the training was so fun, but it really was. It's two a days, it's 20 plus hours of working out and but I love it. I mean I really have had it's lowered my marathon time. I recently ran 305 in Toronto, which I still um, I'm trying to chip away at that time, but it's, it's made me a better athlete. I think it's made me a better person. It's taught me how brave you can be.

Speaker 4: 37:24

Triathlons are like takes a lot of guts and a belief in yourself. So it's taught me how strong you can be. You know, and it's good for my daughter. She's entering her junior year and she'll say, oh, mom, I can score today in soccer and soccer game If you can do those things and you can train like. Even this past weekend it was a hundred mile bike ride, a 20 mile swim, a 20 mile run and a 4k swim, just all within like just a real short Saturday into Sunday. And she's like mom, if you can do that, I can hustle. And I'm like, yes, you can. That's the point, you know. So it it.

Speaker 4: 37:57

I really, I really love this triathlon world. I thought I was going to be one and done. I was looking out in the Kona um in the ocean, and I was like I'm never doing this again. This is really scary. But again, like when you enter the red carpet and they call your name, it's everything that you envisioned over and over in your training and I'll never forget when Mike said, rebecca PZ, you and I are mad. It like took my breath away. It was just like the most amazing experience for me.

Speaker 3: 38:26

Yeah, as you were flying at like five minute mile pace down the red carpet.

Speaker 4: 38:31

Well, because it's so funny, because I am not a great swimmer and I'm not a great bike rider, but the thing is is like I tried to make it up on the run. So I passed a thousand and two people on the run and you know, it was just because I. I didn't do bad, I just that's my. So when, when I finally am in the run, I'm like, okay, do your thing. Like you know this, do your thing. So, um, I'm happy that the run is last, cause, when I came out of Kona, my bike was the only one on on the rack.

Speaker 4: 39:04

When I came out of the swim, I'm like, and the guy's like, are you hurt? I'm like it's not a, and I was only. I was doing like two flat per hundred yards, but that's not the one 30 that these girls are doing. And these, these athletes are the greatest athletes in the world. I mean these women I look at them are the greatest athletes in the world. I mean these women, I look at them. I'm like, wow, like this is this is so that for me, the energy and the vibe at the start and throughout the race is awesome. You know, we're all cheering for each other and there's 2000 people. So I'm heading to France and I'll be racing France in 18 days, nice, france, and I'm really excited and really scared but that's okay, yeah, and it's kind of funny.

Speaker 2: 39:48

Kona's a whole different beast. I bet if you were to show up to any other Ironman you'd be kind of right in the middle of the action. But racing Kona is definitely a whole different experience. Like, I can go win my age group at Ironmans and stuff but show up to Kona and I am average and best kind of deal. So adding that whole level on top of it it's not just doing an Ironman, but doing an Ironman among one of the most competitive fields possible definitely adds a whole nother level of challenge to it.

Speaker 4: 40:15

It is. It's scary, but then you, I feel like you get to be here. I get to be here. This is awesome, you know, and that's that's how my mentality is. I get to do this. I feel very, very lucky to be able to get to do this. But, um, I have so much respect for these athletes. They're just I mean even the training that I put in. I know that they're out there doing it too, and it's hard. It's really really hard, but totally rewarding that's the fun part.

Speaker 2: 40:40

A little bit of suffering is good for everyone.

Speaker 3: 40:42

Yeah, yeah stuff on it. Anise, you're gonna be able to wear a wetsuit, or?

Speaker 4: 40:48

well, I went and saw brian today at fast wits just for a tune-up and he's the best, like he's so awesome. He always supports everything I do and I always talk to him about everything that, any help that I need, or he's the best. And I bought a wetsuit because I tore a hole, like last week. I tore a hole, like putting it on. I was like, is this like a sign? I don't know what happened, but, but I'm really excited about the new wetsuit. So, um, I hope I get to use it more. I don't, I don't have any.

Speaker 4: 41:17

I don't know what I'm racing after France, because I always knew that I would do Kona and then Franceanson, a couple of like in between ones, just just to work it out and and and really get my time down. Um, in transition, because I don't know what's up my transition. I don't know. My dad's like what are you doing Napping? I'm like, no, I don't know I'm not napping. I just don't know I can't get my socks on, I can't. I saw you Josh, like in and out, and I'm like I don't know I'm eating, I'm getting myself, so, but I, we did that. I love that. Boston try. I highly recommend it. It was so, so much fun. I'm going to do it every single year and then hopefully, I don't know. I said to my husband the other day I was like how many Ironmans are there in the world?

Speaker 2: 41:58

And he's like no no, I was like is it a thing? Though if I enjoy it, it's really fun for me. Actually, josh just sent me a post about a, a guy who's doing a number of iron mans back to back. How many is he looking to do, josh, where's?

Speaker 3: 42:14

he at. So he's at day 117 or 118 out of 120 straight back up like way out of the states.

Speaker 4: 42:24

Let's get, let's call him, let's get him. Let's get him on the hype.

Speaker 3: 42:26

He's doing them all on the Roth course the actual day of Roth. He was there with Zdeno doing the actual race that day, but 119 other days straight he's doing the course as well.

Speaker 4: 42:39

Is that the guy that fell asleep on his bike?

Speaker 3: 42:43

I don't think so.

Speaker 4: 42:44

This guy is unbelievable. Okay, google this because right now there's a current Ironman out there doing something and he fell asleep on his bike and he woke up and he just kept going. I didn't get to check the article yet, but I was like whoa.

Speaker 3: 43:01

I could see Becca doing 125 days straight now.

Speaker 4: 43:10

Yeah, if that's a thing I always think about, like if you hear of any like awesome, like must go to iron man's.

Speaker 3: 43:14

Let me know. So what? So the iron man's are are relatively new triathlon. Obviously we're a triathlon podcast, but your upbringing has been endurance, running and and what have you done in the marathon world? You've done the seven by seven by seven, but how many have you run in every state you've run? How many continents have you run in like what's the craziest marathon you've done?

Speaker 4: 43:34

um, the volcano marathon was at 15 000 feet altitude and it wasn't. Until I actually got out, I bought a training mask, one of those peak performance training masks. They sent me a bunch to try. I called the guy. I'm like mine's broken because he put it all the way till four. I put it on, I went for a run. I said mine's broken because I can't breathe in it. He said that's how you're going to feel during the volcano.

Speaker 4: 44:01

I was so drawn to this race that I'm like I don't care, I'm doing it, I'll die trying. I don't know if that's the answer, but I'm going to do it. I'm already invested, I want to do it. And, um, that was at 15,000 feet out to that was that was really, really at the Katama desert and Chile and it was. It was like unforgettable.

Speaker 4: 44:18

The people that you're, you're going with and you have to go to the top of the mountain in these Jeeps because, like, a car won't make it and you're like this is wild. This is so cool. I love that stuff. I love testing my mind and body, and the crazier and harder the race, the better I do, because I can go through it, I can put my mind and body through it and wind up. Okay. On the other side and it's oftentimes when other people are breaking down I'm passing them because I'm like, well, I don't know, I was raised by a Marine and I would be like this is broken or this hurts and he's like no, it's all my dad's like it's in your head, it's all.

Speaker 1: 44:57

And.

Speaker 4: 44:57

I'm like, no, it's not, no, it's actually sticking out, walk it off. And I'm like, okay, and I think that you know my dad is my absolute hero and I think him being so much harder on on me, um, got me to where I am today and I'm so grateful for that, because it's different with my child. When she says it hurts, she's done, it hurts, it's over, it's not open for discussion, she doesn't want to do it anymore. And so, um, we have a great relationship and so I love these.

Speaker 4: 45:24

I love these events and I've run 20 consecutive Boston marathons. I will always Boston's where I got my start, the Boston Marathon, and I will forever run the Boston Marathon. And I've done all the 50 states which I finished in Jackson Hole, wyoming, and it was like fairytale finish. I won the race. I got to run through the finish line with my daughter by my side, like we had our hands up in the air just crossing the finish line and my dad and my husband were holding the finish line tape and it was just, and I'm like, and my mom's crying, I was like we did it. You know, we got through it, we did it and I love this stuff.

Speaker 4: 46:02

I've done the seven continents. Twice I've run. I've run Antarctica three times and I it's my favorite race, you know getting to, you fly in on a military style plane and lands on a glacier and it's go time, you know, and it's really awesome. I love to travel the world. I love, I love to run and you know, it's paid for my college tuition, it's brought me around the world and I'm so grateful for running and finding something that I, that I totally love to do. It's, it's really, it's been fun.

Speaker 2: 46:34

Yeah, it's funny. I have myself wondering what would it take to do seven and seven. This is not good for me to be having this conversation, for me to be having this conversation with you.

Speaker 4: 46:43

You're. And then you're like, huh, it's keeping you up at night. You're like I'm going to. I became the. I love the race so much. I became the race director of the 777 and marathon. I'm like, no, I want to race direct this. I want to help these people reach their goals and the experience that I had. So and you cross the finish line, you wait on the next person to come in and then we wait on the next person to come in. We all help each other and then you form these. I have friends all over the world. But the 777, the locations are incredible. You're running in Dubai and Antarctica and Australia, like it's, it's really. And then Miami was really fun. You know what I mean Getting, but it's the Madrid. One runs on a racetrack, which is so. You're like on a racetrack running. It's, the locations are pretty awesome. It's a luxury experience, it's really. It's really, really fun. If you're thinking about doing it, reach out, I'll help you.

Speaker 2: 47:42

Okay, we're definitely going to talk later.

Speaker 4: 47:45

That's not getting me in trouble here, that's the thing I'm hating about his post is because they're like no yes.

Speaker 2: 47:53

So how many marathons have you actually done? Now it sounds like, man, you've got quite the resume.

Speaker 4: 47:58

Yeah, over like 130. My goodness, the hundredth was really really awesome because I got to pace like a three hour 330 pace group and that was like really, really fun. Because they were like oh, and, by the way, your pacer, it's a hundred marathon and it was martha's vignette. It was like really, really awesome. So like that was really cool. And then after I used to be like 97, 98. Now I'm like it's over a hundred, I've got to a hundred and then like 130. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 48:27

Yeah, just take it yeah.

Speaker 3: 48:31

And she gets. She keeps nudging me as we get closer to Chicago. She's like you got this, you got this. I'll be in Boston with you in two years, don't worry, you got this, you can do it, you know.

Speaker 4: 48:40

And this, you can do it, you know and this is what I tell my daughter like, tell yourself two reasons why you're going to do it. I'm going to do it because I had a great training cycle, or I believe in myself, or whatever. Two reasons that you. Because if you doubt yourself, then you like, then it doesn't happen. But if you're like I know I'm doing this, like why not me? I'm doing this, I got this, and that's that's kind of like how I run every single race, like, and when I'm training, like, am I doing everything I can right now to to win this race or to or to hit my? But going into every single race that I have, I have two goals. Like on a perfect day, I'm going to hit this one and then I have a backup goal in case a is not going so well. But I think it's really important to have to have two. One set one, why not? You have nothing to lose.

Speaker 2: 49:25

Go for it absolutely so what are you looking at? Racing next you got. You have obviously the ironman world championships coming up here in nice. Uh, what are you looking?

Speaker 1: 49:35

at after that, or is?

Speaker 4: 49:36

just all eyes on nice, focus on that worry about everything else later no, I'm like training for like 10 things at a time, like that's my life, like I'm like oh so I, I'm, I'm racing um dc. You know I've run it before and my friend shannon, who has lived in belmont and but recently moved to dc's we're gonna run dc and I'm gonna shoot for sub three.

Speaker 4: 49:57

I'm just gonna go, what the turnaround's gonna be like for france, because kona was really really hard. But I, I I'm going to be pretty close at least. So I'm going to shoot for sub three. If sub three is not going so well, I'm going to shoot for a PR, which would be 304.

Speaker 2: 50:13

And when is that?

Speaker 4: 50:13

race. It's in October, third week in October.

Speaker 2: 50:17

Yeah Well, that'll be wicked. You know I did. Years ago I did my first Ironman in Sweden. I was living in Scotland at the time, raced the Ironman in Sweden, flew back to Scotland to get my Ironman tattoo because I had to, and then flew to Canada and six days after the Ironman went and ran a marathon as part of a relay for a challenge and took it down there. And you know what? There's a time window.

Speaker 4: 50:55

If you run it soon enough afterwards, it's almost easier than if you wait two months, kind of things. Your body is just kind of either just not recovered, not in it're don't. I'm like I know, but I need, I need. But the oh, come on, was so funny, cause I'm like I want it. I just got like a six mile run in like the day after Boston to run London, cause Boston, london was back to back and it was. It was like a really funny comment, like, and then, like the comments on Strava are really funny, like somebody posted this is serious, my last, my last run, like, oh, this is serious. I'm like yeah, yeah, it's serious, so but it's fun, it's really fun, and Becca is one of those ones.

Speaker 3: 51:28

Like when you're waking up, her Strava is already done for the day. So like it's insane what she's doing, so like we can all I mean we we interviewed pros in the in the Ironman world and in the triathlon world and you can look at their stravas and it's, it's pretty epic. But I would say becca's is right up there with a lot of them. It might not be that world-class taste that the triathletes are doing, but but the time that you're putting into it and the effort that you put into it is exactly what you're telling us. I mean it's insane what you're capable, capable of doing.

Speaker 4: 52:00

Yeah, I really enjoyed it. It's harder than I thought that I would. Training for an Ironman is harder, way harder than I ever imagined, but it's way more fun. I have the best training partners. I have somebody right now training for Arizona and we've just like totally clicked and we've become real good friends and we support each other and help each other out and there's no way I could do this without support from family and friends. It's just exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 2: 52:25

Yeah, absolutely, and the fun thing about triathlon is it really makes you a more robust athlete all around. It'll probably extend the amount of time that you keep doing crazy amounts of marathons throughout your career. Just taking a little bit of getting the aerobic foundation work on the bike and in the swim definitely helps a bit, but it's just a variety.

Speaker 4: 52:43

I know and I feel like the swim helps, like like massage my body. I don't know, it's weird Like I always feel so stiff, like, and then coming out I'm like, oh, I feel so much better.

Speaker 3: 52:53

It's very true, but I do think you're like no, we don't want to go there, we don't want to go, I don't want to go do this swim workout. And then you get out and that dopamine is like off the charts.

Speaker 4: 53:02

You're right, it's. It's getting colder and colder, so that's kind of scary. But we have the wetsuits, we have pool options if we need to go in a pool before then. But sometimes the hardest one for me is always going to be the swim, like I just I think it's the hardest if you're looking out in the ocean or you're looking out in your lake and you're like, oh, it's cold out or so, but but I feel most accomplished coming out of the swim, like okay, let the day begin.

Speaker 2: 53:28

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3: 53:29

Have you felt like the triathlon training has kept you healthier than maybe some niggles that you would get while you were just running?

Speaker 4: 53:38

Yeah, it's crazy. I haven't been sick like at all and since training for Kona two years ago and and I've been healthy and and I don't know, I guess my body's kind of like. I guess your body becomes like an elastic band where you just have to keep an eye on it, make sure you don't stretch it out too much and get injured. It's like playing chess. It's crazy. You have to keep an eye on all body parts at one time and and for me, when I feel good, I push, push the pace, and if something is tweaky I back off completely. I'm like I just back off until I figure out why does that hurt? Why does that not feel good? But I do. I feel stronger, more fit, more healthy. Um, they're training since training.

Speaker 2: 54:20

Yeah, absolutely. Well, that is very cool to hear. It sounds like you've got quite the story and you've been on some incredible adventures. If people want to give you a follow, where's the best place to do that?

Speaker 4: 54:32

I'm on Instagram and Facebook and then, if you ever need support, if I can support you in any way, ask me anything. Whether it's your first race or however, I can help you. Email me at beccapz, at yahoocom, and I'll support you. Whatever you need, let me know.

Speaker 2: 54:53

I absolutely love it. Thank you so much for taking the time to tell us a little bit about it. You've definitely got me fired up and I'll be Googling some things that are not going to make my family happy.

Speaker 3: 55:03

I did not get you in trouble. Do not make that happen. And before you go, before you go, becca, I think everyone would love to. I don't even think I know, like how you and Z got together. So how did you and Zdeno end up getting together? You training him, I guess, for his first boss.

Speaker 4: 55:18

So our mutual friend, ben Rawitz he's a friend of Tom Brady's reached out and said I have this friend that wants to run races, would you mind having lunch with him? And funny story he was they were like he's a professional athlete, I'm like he plays for the Bruins, it's Daniel Chara, I'm like, oh, like the captain. And and then I was like, and I told Ben, I'm like no, thanks Cause I actually thought professional athletes can be hard. They, they know a lot, so it's hard. They're not, they don't tend to be coachable. And so I was like okay, and Ben's like, well, you just go meet him. I'm like, of course, I'll go meet him.

Speaker 4: 55:57

And when I met him, I'm like he's so cool and so nice. And so it was like awesome. And I and I said, well, you already like I looked at your Strava and you're already pretty fit. You know, I saw you did like a six mile run, pretty fast pace and you're biking a ton. How do you feel about running the Boston Marathon? And he's like, yeah, okay, yeah, that sounds good.

Speaker 4: 56:18

And then, and then I called Dave McGilvery and Dave was like Cedeno Char, I love that guy, let's do it like I'll get himilvery. And Dave was like Zidane O'Chara. I love that guy, let's do it Like I'll get him a bib. And of course, because he's so awesome, he wanted to run through Team Hoyt and so he raised so much money and it was like the Zidane O'Chara parade the whole way of the Boston Marathon and he killed it. He ran it in 3.38.

Speaker 4: 56:44

And I was like just like, oh, I hope he goes, like it would be so cool for him to say I ran 330 something and not like a higher time Cause. I was like I know, I know he has it in him and he finished a cross finish line and we've been friends ever since and and never did I think that I would get coaching and running advice from him, but he's taught me so much. You know he's he's a wealth of knowledge, he's the hardest working person I've ever met and he is so loved by the Boston community. So it's been really really fun to follow him and be friends with them and reach out for advice and and just he does so much for everybody. It's been really fun. But thank God I met him that day because I wasn't going to and I thought, well, I have nothing to lose to meeting him and he's great.

Speaker 3: 57:28

That's crazy. And they're like polar opposites when it comes to height too, because Beck is this tiny little thing and Z is like 6'10".

Speaker 4: 57:36

Everything Like we're so opposite but he's great and it's so fun to follow him because he's he's really become such a fast. I mean he really we. We run a lot of marathons together and when he ran london he was in. He really right before he. He's suffering a little bit of injuries but um, with plantar fasciitis, but when he's healthy he's going to go sub three. No doubt he'll probably hit sub three before I do. It's like nuts, like it's. It's fun to follow that he went from in in just last April. This is the second Boston marathon just in two years to go from three, 38 to. He recently ran three, 10 and London. It's been so inspiring to watch. That's the thing. Anybody can do anything he believes in himself. So if you believe in yourself, make it happen.

Speaker 3: 58:25

And now he's done roth and he's doing, he's about to do kona this year.

Speaker 4: 58:29

He's gonna yeah, he may go to berlin, he, and run. He's working on the majors, which he's definitely going to finish next year, and he's definitely going to go to kona and he's going to crush it to go to Kona and he's going to crush it. We got to work out his transition times too. Both of us in transition. It's so bad. I'm like what a waste to be in transition for 12 minutes. But I'm also like I don't know. I watch these people. I think it's just I don't practice enough triathlons. I don't do enough to know that your socks don't go on when your feet are wet, like not as easily, and for some reason, my helmet like it's all something is always an issue. I could not get my helmet on my last race for no reason. I do my helmet every single day, for no reason. It wouldn't go on. And I just said, okay, relax, just relax. And just like getting patient and saying, okay, just come on, do your thing.

Speaker 2: 59:24

No, absolutely. Well, that is very cool. It's fun to see you know triathlon. Anyone who does one just seems to get sucked in because it's the best community. It's such a fun challenge and it's really the first finish line that you cross. That feeling is absolutely indescribable, so it's no surprise that people do. Definitely, we see a lot of runners come to it, but you're doing it the right way. We see a lot of runners come to triathlon when they get so injured that they can't run anymore. So you're starting it off earlier than that, which is good.

Speaker 4: 59:54

Listen to your body.

Speaker 2: 59:55

Your body will tell you Absolutely Well. Thank you so much. We'll definitely put your social media links in the show notes here so that people can give you a follow and reach out if there is anything that you can do to help them out there. But thank you so much. We sure appreciate having you come on. Thanks for having me. No problem, have a good one. Thanks to you guys.